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[url="http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Panthers-Huddle-Sit-in-on-final-team-meeting/01ae4910-6f90-4298-b847-91e603d2e753"]http://www.panthers....47-91e603d2e753[/url]


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well RR is a good guy but Cam's speech was solid truth! 1-5 start next season will wrap up his time in Charlotte. I hope the boys get back to winning next season!

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Have a feeling that if Rivera was let go, the locker room might have been lost for next year. Never seen guys so publicly animate about keeping a coach before.
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lol yup.

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i don't care what they say. if they aren't winning next year he needs to be gone.

if they want to keep him they better come out of the gate winning. until they can win with him, their loyalty is misplaced.
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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357438568' post='2079677']
i don't care what they say. if they aren't winning next year he needs to be gone.

if they want to keep him they better come out of the gate winning. until they can win with him, their loyalty is misplaced.
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Just be glad I don't run this site... Cause if I did I'd ban you and every other negative so called fan on this site

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789' timestamp='1357437588' post='2079656']
Have a feeling that if Rivera was let go, the locker room might have been lost for next year. Never seen guys so publicly animate about keeping a coach before.
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Disagree. There was nothing unique about the support for Ron. Unless they are complete jerks, potentially outgoing coaches routinely receive a lot of support from their players, especially coming off a big win in the last game of the year.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Ron, but this was pretty typical.

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1357438713' post='2079681']


Just be glad I don't run this site... Cause if I did I'd ban you and every other negative so called fan on this site
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TCF you would have to ban yourself first if such were the case. Seems you've been on your medication lately...

Can someone recap this please, the Panthers website video player is god awful..

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1357438713' post='2079681']
Just be glad I don't run this site... Cause if I did I'd ban you and every other negative so called fan on this site
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Not that he needs my support, but Rayzor is one of the most consistently positive posters on this site. That doesn't mean he has to agree with everything.

If you ran the site, you would spend most of your time talking to yourself, and somehow I think you'd be okay with that.

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1357438713' post='2079681']


Just be glad I don't run this site... Cause if I did I'd ban you and every other negative so called fan on this site
[/quote]lol.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1357439005' post='2079690']
Not that he needs my support, but Rayzor is one of the most consistently positive posters on this site. That doesn't mean he has to agree with everything.

If you ran the site, you would spend most of your time talking to yourself, and somehow I think you'd be okay with that.
[/quote]funny how i was called one of the most blind homers for most the season.

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rayzor has pissed me off for numerous times for being a sunshine and rainbows dork.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1357438801' post='2079684']
Disagree. There was nothing unique about the support for Ron. Unless they are complete jerks, potentially outgoing coaches routinely receive a lot of support from their players, especially coming off a big win in the last game of the year.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Ron, but this was pretty typical.
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Feel free to disagree, but if you watched the video and saw how the players reacted to Rivera and then saw all the tweets from the players today regarding the news that Rivera would be returning, you might think differently.

[url="https://twitter.com/randywattson"][b]charles johnson[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]randywattson[/b][/size][/url]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Chico run Chico run [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CoachRivera&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]CoachRivera[/b][/url][/background][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)][url="https://twitter.com/randywattson"][b]charles johnson[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]randywattson[/b][/size][/url][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Heyyyyyyy
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Zod I love this place.

Where else but the interwebz can fans of a team complain about the level of fandom needed to be a fan. I guess there needs to be some sort of manual or some such. So we all would know the rules on how to be a proper fan.

Nah. that wouldn't be any fun. Nevermind.

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[quote name='iamhubby1' timestamp='1357439587' post='2079715']
Zod I love this place.

Where else but the interwebz can fans of a team complain about the level of fandom needed to be a fan. I guess there needs to be some sort of manual or some such. So we all would know the rules on how to be a proper fan.

Nah. that wouldn't be any fun. Nevermind.
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apparently truecatsfan (i thought i'd show him how to spell it right) is the guy to go to.

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any alternative link slash recap? For some reason videos don't work on the panthers website for me.

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789' timestamp='1357439564' post='2079714']
Feel free to disagree, but if you watched the video and saw how the players reacted to Rivera and then saw all the tweets from the players today regarding the news that Rivera would be returning, you might think differently.

[url="https://twitter.com/randywattson"][b]charles johnson[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]randywattson[/b][/size][/url]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Chico run Chico run [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CoachRivera&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]CoachRivera[/b][/url][/background][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)][url="https://twitter.com/randywattson"][b]charles johnson[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]randywattson[/b][/size][/url][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Heyyyyyyy
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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357439887' post='2079727']
none of that means anything if they don't win next year. if they aren't playing lights out then all that was just a bunch of words and rivera's motivational skills will be shown as being insufficient.

they want to show their love for the coach? win games.
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Oh I agree, I was just pointing out the fact that the team seems to gel really together off the field and with the coaching staff so that may be a reason for keeping Rivera because they (JR, whoever the hell is making decisions) feel that it is easier that Rivera can learn to actually coach the team as good as he controls the emotional/continuity side of the team.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357439347' post='2079705']
funny how i was called one of the most blind homers for most the season.
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You usually are a blind homer.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789' timestamp='1357439564' post='2079714']
Feel free to disagree, but if you watched the video and saw how the players reacted to Rivera and then saw all the tweets from the players today regarding the news that Rivera would be returning, you might think differently.

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Yes, I watched the video, and I follow the same guys on Twitter, so I saw those too.

My point wasn't that Rivera didn't have support. My point was that support for an embattled coach, especially when you end the year on a winning streak, isn't anything unusual.

Just recently, look at the support Raheem Morris got in Tampa Bay. You had players openly questioning him being replaced with Schiano, to the extent that a couple of them had to be shipped out of town. The support of players is nice and it's heartwarming, but that isn't enough if you aren't a good coach (and I'm speaking hypothetically; not saying Rivera isn't a good coach).
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Ok, let's be real here. It all comes down to two things. Record and performance. So imo, Rivers needs to win more than he loses right off the bat. So if the players want to keep Rivera, they had better come out showing it.

Win or tie every quarter of the season, be in playoff contention, and look good doing so would go a long way in Rivera's favor.

Losing well fought games, and playing well, only gets you so far.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357439754' post='2079723']

apparently truecatsfan (i thought i'd show him how to spell it right) is the guy to go to.
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It's TruCatzFan

As in True (Cardiac Catz Fan)

It's funny how people get all butt hurt and make things personal because they get called out for not supporting the team

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1357440456' post='2079744']
You usually are a blind homer.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.



Yes, I watched the video, and I follow the same guys on Twitter, so I saw those too.

My point wasn't that Rivera didn't have support. My point was that support for an embattled coach, especially when you end the year on a winning streak, isn't anything unusual.

Just recently, look at the support Raheem Morris got in Tampa Bay. You had players openly questioning him being replaced with Schiano, to the extent that a couple of them had to be shipped out of town. The support of players is nice and it's heartwarming, but that isn't enough if you aren't a good coach (and I'm speaking hypothetically; not saying Rivera isn't a good coach).
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Much like I agreed with Rayzor, I also agree with you. However, finding a coach that all players mutually love is pretty hard to find. That's why I trust Rivera to due diligence and start progressing as a coach.
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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357439754' post='2079723']
apparently [b]truecatsfan (i thought i'd show him how to spell it right)[/b] is the guy to go to.
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I've got nothing against you, but uh, this is a TAD ironic considering your username is a misspelling of razor, no?
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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1357440851' post='2079762']
It's TruCatzFan

As in True (Cardiac Catz Fan)

It's funny how people get all butt hurt and make things personal because they get called out for not supporting the team
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it's cute how you think you could have any kind of effect on a person that's different from a gnat buzzing around.

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