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[King Taharqa]

A former NFL player with a Super Bowl ring isn't a "football guy?" Am I missing something?
Edit: The 1959 NFL Championship Game

Neither the Raiders nor the Cowboys ever looked for a GM under Jones or Davis since they are/were both owner and GM, established in their respective corporations as such and hold the title. Again, Am I missing something?

Richardson played what? 4 years? 4 decades ago? He's much more knowledgeable in foods. I guess Michael Jordan is a bball guy since he is the GOAT. Nevermind he makes horrible decisions and has brought in real execs who understand bball like Brown and Cho. No one thinks Jordan is this great bball exec even despite playing.He's swallowed his pride and removed himself from all bball related decisions. JR isnt smart enough to do this. He thinks he's Rooney, but our results say otherwise. He needs REAL football people in his organization not his old drinking buddies. As a football guy, JR gets you 7-9 at best.

[jarhead]

Like EVERY season the cap situation is being blown out of proportion.

I do think this is an appealing option for a myriad of reasons.

Dream job? Maybe not, but I don't think it would deter many people just because its Carolina.

If what you are saying about the cap is true the job should be attractive.I think we are about 4 players away form being a playoff team.

[panther4life]

Here's our competition,with their 2012 record, starting qb from last year, head coach if applicable and draft position.

Chiefs 2-14, Cassel, Andy Reid and 1st overall pick

Jags 2-14, Gabbert, Mularkey and 2nd overall pick

Browns 5-11 Weeden,Mccoy, Vacant and 6th overall pick

Cardinals 5-11, Kolb/Skelton, Vacant and 7th overall pick

Jets- 6-10,Sanchez, Rex Ryan and 9th overall pick

Chargers 7-9, Rivers,Vacant and 11th overall pick

Of those teams it looks like the Jags(Mularkey still up in air like Rivera was until yesterday) and Chargers will allow their GM candidates to pick their own coaching staff. Granted by the time they land their job they will have missed the opportunity to interview at least 2 candidates(Reid and Marrone) and possibly 1 more in Chip Kelly.

Now that they missed on Reid, AZ may also be a team that hires a GM before having a head coach in place. Same might be able to be said for the Browns job if Chip kelly goes to Philly.

[Anybodyhome]

Richardson played what? 4 years? 4 decades ago? He's much more knowledgeable in foods. I guess Michael Jordan is a bball guy since he is the GOAT. Nevermind he makes horrible decisions and has brought in real execs who understand bball like Brown and Cho. No one thinks Jordan is this great bball exec even despite playing.He's swallowed his pride and removed himself from all bball related decisions. JR isnt smart enough to do this. He thinks he's Rooney, but our results say otherwise. He needs REAL football people in his organization not his old drinking buddies. As a football guy, JR gets you 7-9 at best.

And, again, you are making the assumption that I've been asserting throughout the entire thread- nobody knows just how involved JR is in the personnel decisions of this team. I'm not saying I agree with the assumption one way or the other, but as time goes by I'm starting to lean toward the notion that JR is a lot more controlling than a lot of people think. And, if that is the case, then part of your premise is correct.

[jarhead]

Again, my point exactly. The fact that the coaching decision is now a moot point based upon the owner's decision, I'm taking the job which offers me the best compensation package regardless because I can always lay the performance of the team at the feet of the coach.

Let's not forget the GM is a contract position unlike players- it's guaranteed no matter what. So, if I'm a prospective GM and I know I'm stuck with Ryan or Rivera (also guaranteed contracts) for at least one more year, I'll go wherever they make me the best offer knowing that maybe I'll have some say in who the next coach is.

Let's face it- Tannenbaum wasn't fired because Sanchez isn't very good, nor was Hurney fired because Rivera is not a great coach. I think they were both let go for 2 reasons- to give the fanbase a reason to hope for a better future and because they probably both put their teams in salary cap hell.

It all depends on what JRs expectations of a GM are.I got the feeling that Hurneys 1st priority was to do what JR ask and his second was to win games. Its impossible to know if JR helps or impedes us from winning.My guess it is the latter.

[DaCityKats]

looking at the evidence that has been presented, i would assume JR is pretty involved in the team decisions.just look at yesterday.

[DaCityKats]

It all depends on what JRs expectations of a GM are.I got the feeling that Hurneys 1st priority was to do what JR ask and his second was to win games. Its impossible to know if JR helps or impedes us from winning.My guess it is the latter.

and that motto has got 4 winning years in 18 seasons. his priorities are backwards.

[CRA]

looking at the evidence that has been presented, i would assume JR is pretty involved in the team decisions.just look at yesterday.

Coach and GM are two decisions all owners have a say in....it isn't like it is just JR and Jerry Jones that come out for those

[jarhead]

looking at the evidence that has been presented, i would assume JR is pretty involved in the team decisions.just look at yesterday.

yep i agree

[DaCityKats]

Coach and GM are two decisions all owners have a say in....it isn't like it is just JR and Jerry Jones that come out for those

he should have a say, but so should the GM.which we had a head start on the rest of the NFL but have yet to interview any prospects. im not saying he shouldnt be part of the process, but he shouldnt be the process.

[CRA]

he should have a say, but so should the GM.which we had a head start on the rest of the NFL but have yet to interview any prospects. im not saying he shouldnt be part of the process, but he shouldnt be the process.

Well, there are many examples of owners in the last decade who have put a coach in the seat and not leaving it up to a GM.

[Happy Panther]

Being a GM on any team is very attractive to anyone in the mix. The Panthers are a well respected if mediocre NFL franchise with great talent.

Anyone we interview will jump on the job without reservation if they get the offer.

[panthers55]

It takes all the pressure off the GM to decide the coaching piece while he fixes the cap and get the lay of the land. No matter what Rivera does, he is looking good. Gets to keep him if he is successful or can him and bring in another guy when he is ready to make wholesale changes. He will be seen as decisive if he pulls the trigger and successful if we have a winning season. Richardson has always let the GM manage the money and players. He has people like Morrison to oversee things and provide guidance.

[KendrickPanther]

Morrison is on the business side of things. He kisses hands and shakes babies. Nothing to do with football operations at all. We don't know how involved Jerry is. There is a rumor he told Marty to sign all those guys to big deals but we have no evidence of that. I don't think it's meddling for an owner to make a decision on who the head coach of his franchise is. The Eagles owner was very involved in firing Andy Reid. Coaching changes are a big deal and require input from the top. That's not meddling, it's reality.

[DaCityKats]

Well, there are many examples of owners in the last decade who have put a coach in the seat and not leaving it up to a GM.

and how successful has that fanchise been?again the owner should have some say, but so should the GM.