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#85 Argus Plexus

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

If Beane is the GM just hang me please. What was the point of letting Marty go?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

All GM jobs are attractive for front office employees who aspire to run an NFL team... Some more attractive than others, but those jobs are (for the most part) generally taken by GMs who are currently doing an adequate job... GM opportunities come along at the rate of about 2 (maybe 3) a year, typically to a team in need of fixing...

I'll believe the GM position is unattractive when potential candidates start declining interviews...

As for not wanting to sign FAs, well, we used to be one of the more active teams in Free Agency (see Sean Gilbert, Kevin Greene, Chuck Smith, etc see: History of Carolina Panthers FA Signings) with mixed results... Much of that philosophy changed when Hurney took over... So, I tend to feel it was more a Hurney philosophy as opposed to a Panthers philosophy (or a Richardson philosophy to be specific)... I personally feel Hurney was given a long leash, and chose to attempt to build through the draft, and retain those he deemed as vital... Again, with mixed results...

This year, along with Carolina, NY, Jacksonville, Cleveland, San Diego and Arizona are all looking for GMs... Arguably, none of those teams are in better shape than Carolina currently is...

Carolina's cap situation is disconcerting, yes... However, it's likely that the release or restructure of a handful of players get the team into position to sign draft picks and/or a supporting cast of free agents (no huge splashes this year, sorry)... Gamble, Williams and Beason are all likely to be released/traded/restructured (but we all know this)... Losing those 3 (2 of which did not contribute significantly in any way this season) would not be the kiss of death for this team, and would get the team into position to meet the cap requirements... We all know there will need to be some tough decisions made, but the incoming GM is by no means going to need to blow things up and start over...

So, yes the new GM will have work to do, but I don't believe it's a complete reconstruction project, and certainly not enough to make potential candidates take a pass...

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:15 AM

Richardson played what? 4 years? 4 decades ago? He's much more knowledgeable in foods. I guess Michael Jordan is a bball guy since he is the GOAT. Nevermind he makes horrible decisions and has brought in real execs who understand bball like Brown and Cho. No one thinks Jordan is this great bball exec even despite playing.He's swallowed his pride and removed himself from all bball related decisions. JR isnt smart enough to do this. He thinks he's Rooney, but our results say otherwise. He needs REAL football people in his organization not his old drinking buddies. As a football guy, JR gets you 7-9 at best.



Weren't you Bob Johnson's biggest supporter?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

Weren't you Bob Johnson's biggest supporter?


Very much so. And I still stand by what I said years ago that made you guys gasp. Jerry Richardson is the worst pro owner in Charlotte history. Worse than Shinn, and worse than Bob. Those guys despite their flaws wanted to win and werent in the business of selling losing to their fans. JR has been given a pass for some reason 18 years to do just that.

Building a communications/real estate empire >>>>>>> Building an empire from Hardees

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

What was the bobcats record under Johnson and was that a losing product?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

What was the bobcats record under Johnson and was that a losing product?


It was, just like the Panthers. The only difference being, Bob was never "comfortable" there. He never tried to justify 30 win seasons or hire people merely to be scapegoats for his ineptitude. He actually hired a HALL OF FAME COACH and gave him complete control of basketball. He hired MJ and gave him complete control of basketball. When he left town, despite all the hate thrown his way, the Bobcats were a playoff team with QUALITY players that have since left town and had more success elsewhere. When JR leaves town/this earth will the Panthers be a playoff team? They dont look like it.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:17 AM

So you can make excuses for Johnson, but not Richardson.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

So you can make excuses for Johnson, but not Richardson.


Its not excuses, its track record. Richardson had a 1-15 year and several years of losing before Bob set foot town. He's had quite a few more since he's left also.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:24 AM

Its not excuses, its track record. Richardson had a 1-15 year and several years of losing before Bob set foot town. He's had quite a few more since he's left also.


You mentioned hiring Jordan in the context of a good thing.

Jordan was a great player, but a train wreck of a front office person.

See what I mean? You take horrible decisions and put them in a positive light.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

Come to think of it, isn't Jordan the worst owner in Charlotte history? I mean, he owns the worst team in NBA history. By definition isn't that true?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

You mentioned hiring Jordan in the context of a good thing.

Jordan was a great player, but a train wreck of a front office person.

See what I mean? You take horrible decisions and put them in a positive light.


What controversies did the Bobcats endure under Bob's watch? Did Bob ever release all his best players in protest "to prepare for a work stoppage"? Keep in mind, one guy was operating a business in his HOME MARKET, the other wasnt.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:40 AM

Come to think of it, isn't Jordan the worst owner in Charlotte history? I mean, he owns the worst team in NBA history. By definition isn't that true?


Jordan is terrible, but he has a lot less losing seasons than JR. Jordan also doesnt make a profit if the Bobcats lose.