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Are the Panthers attractive to a GM prospect?


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#81 CRA

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

and again one of my orginal questions was how many have been successful?not many, just the giants. you said this happens quite a lot but it does not. most of the time it is a team of execs that lead to find the next HC. normally the owner and GM is apart of that team.

My only point was it isn't a Jerry Jones thing....organizations don't do it every time they hire a new GM but it isn't really that unusual of a thing. It isn't something just bad organizations have done.

Depends on how you choose to define a lot. It happens. Normally when teams hire a new GM they do it after a 2010 type season....then I think you legitmately clean house.

Numbers also say, new HC brings in "his" QB with in 3 yrs if he doesn't inhert a Superbowl champ. JR doesn't want to burn this Cam thing down yet IMO

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

In her particular business, she has the equivalent of an agent, so yes.

With respect to who says what to whom and your other comments, I'll always respect and value your opinions. However, in this case, we'll just have to agree to disagree. My opinions on how JR commands the ship simply differ from yours.


Which is fine.

I've had my fair share of issues with how Richardson has run the Panthers. I just think people put way too much stock into his ability to control what the media says. Outside of possibly some of the lesser media in Charlotte, he doesn't really have all that much.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

No GM worth a damn wants to work with a meddling owner who despite not being a "football guy" makes critical football based decisions.

We cant draw a quality GM for the same reasons the Cowgirls cant and the Raiders couldnt when Al was alive.


Unlike the few you mentioned, Dan Snyder seems to have learned his lesson.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

Beane being a secondary prospect and already in house gives him the edge. See loyalty above. All things point to him being our guy.


So continuing to be a second tier franchise and mediocrity is in our future.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

If Beane is the GM just hang me please. What was the point of letting Marty go?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

All GM jobs are attractive for front office employees who aspire to run an NFL team... Some more attractive than others, but those jobs are (for the most part) generally taken by GMs who are currently doing an adequate job... GM opportunities come along at the rate of about 2 (maybe 3) a year, typically to a team in need of fixing...

I'll believe the GM position is unattractive when potential candidates start declining interviews...

As for not wanting to sign FAs, well, we used to be one of the more active teams in Free Agency (see Sean Gilbert, Kevin Greene, Chuck Smith, etc see: History of Carolina Panthers FA Signings) with mixed results... Much of that philosophy changed when Hurney took over... So, I tend to feel it was more a Hurney philosophy as opposed to a Panthers philosophy (or a Richardson philosophy to be specific)... I personally feel Hurney was given a long leash, and chose to attempt to build through the draft, and retain those he deemed as vital... Again, with mixed results...

This year, along with Carolina, NY, Jacksonville, Cleveland, San Diego and Arizona are all looking for GMs... Arguably, none of those teams are in better shape than Carolina currently is...

Carolina's cap situation is disconcerting, yes... However, it's likely that the release or restructure of a handful of players get the team into position to sign draft picks and/or a supporting cast of free agents (no huge splashes this year, sorry)... Gamble, Williams and Beason are all likely to be released/traded/restructured (but we all know this)... Losing those 3 (2 of which did not contribute significantly in any way this season) would not be the kiss of death for this team, and would get the team into position to meet the cap requirements... We all know there will need to be some tough decisions made, but the incoming GM is by no means going to need to blow things up and start over...

So, yes the new GM will have work to do, but I don't believe it's a complete reconstruction project, and certainly not enough to make potential candidates take a pass...

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:15 AM

Richardson played what? 4 years? 4 decades ago? He's much more knowledgeable in foods. I guess Michael Jordan is a bball guy since he is the GOAT. Nevermind he makes horrible decisions and has brought in real execs who understand bball like Brown and Cho. No one thinks Jordan is this great bball exec even despite playing.He's swallowed his pride and removed himself from all bball related decisions. JR isnt smart enough to do this. He thinks he's Rooney, but our results say otherwise. He needs REAL football people in his organization not his old drinking buddies. As a football guy, JR gets you 7-9 at best.



Weren't you Bob Johnson's biggest supporter?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

Weren't you Bob Johnson's biggest supporter?


Very much so. And I still stand by what I said years ago that made you guys gasp. Jerry Richardson is the worst pro owner in Charlotte history. Worse than Shinn, and worse than Bob. Those guys despite their flaws wanted to win and werent in the business of selling losing to their fans. JR has been given a pass for some reason 18 years to do just that.

Building a communications/real estate empire >>>>>>> Building an empire from Hardees

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

What was the bobcats record under Johnson and was that a losing product?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

What was the bobcats record under Johnson and was that a losing product?


It was, just like the Panthers. The only difference being, Bob was never "comfortable" there. He never tried to justify 30 win seasons or hire people merely to be scapegoats for his ineptitude. He actually hired a HALL OF FAME COACH and gave him complete control of basketball. He hired MJ and gave him complete control of basketball. When he left town, despite all the hate thrown his way, the Bobcats were a playoff team with QUALITY players that have since left town and had more success elsewhere. When JR leaves town/this earth will the Panthers be a playoff team? They dont look like it.


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