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#76 rayzor

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

he's like a fragile version of mike vick.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

honest question: do you believe that if we had somehow traded cam for luck prior to the season, with all else remaining the same, that the panthers would have made the playoffs?


absolutely impossible to answer.

also, this isn't a Cam vs Luck or RG3 or RW argument for me. my point that i'm trying to get others to see is, as a fanbase, we have to want more than good stats. sure, nothing wrong with finding positives where you can but i have had enough of moral victories.

The Colts and Skins making the playoffs were not on many folks radar's but they did it. Seahawks still had lots of talent from a one playoff win team a couple of years ago so not too shocking.

if Cam ranked dead last in all offensive categories YET the Panthers go to the playoffs, i would be thrilled. and im certain all the over the top Cam fans would be too. that is what our focus should be.

#78 Mr. Scot

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

RG3 can't pass? Dude, as a Cam fan, he is right now a better passer than Cam. Stop hating! You're sore loser fanatic.


Oh, he can pass, and may indeed be more accurate than Newton overall.

I don't think it's gonna matter though.

As to the Vick comparisons, Griffin is more of a straight line speed guy while Vick is an elusive runner. And while Vick isn't especially durable (has he ever played a complete season?) he is at least more so than Griffin.

I doubt he makes it more than four, maybe five years. Could even be less if he gets an injury severe enough.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:05 PM

absolutely impossible to answer.


uhhh so are you suggesting that there's more to the story than team wins and losses?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

Not even going to read the next 5 pages if it is anything like the 1st. Did someone really say RG3 can't pass worth a damn? LOL

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:09 PM

more to the story? not sure which story you are talking about.

you do realize Luck threw for the 2nd most yds by a rookie against a stout Ravens team, while on the road, on the same day an all time great LB Ray Lewis was playing his last game EVER AND without the OC Bruce Arians who missed his ONLY game of the year due to an illness?

again. for me, this isn't about wanting a dif qb in Carolina. we have what we have and can get better.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

Bob the 3rd is a glass QB. And one of the main reasons he has success as a passer is because of his threat as a runner. I think Cousins will be the Skins starting QB in 2 more years.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

Good guy, fine player, just won't hold up for an NFL career physically. I doubt he is in the league in 2 years. If you are a running QB, you better not be built like a wide receiver. Good thing Cam looks more like a TE

More like a DE, but yeah Called this one.


And even though Cam is big still don't like the fact that he runs the ball for the same reason

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

Shanny is a shitbag for leaving him in after halftime when he obviously re-injured the leg. That knee twist looked fuging ugly.

Hope he didn't suffer any type of long term injury.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:29 PM

More like a DE, but yeah Called this one.


And even though Cam is big still don't like the fact that he runs the ball for the same reason


Most of the beating Cam has taken has been trying to stand in the pocket behind our poo OL. He usually runs very smart. He gets out of bounds or gets down for the most part. He pretty much only puts himself at risk when going for the sticks on 3rd down or trying to get in the endzone.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

80% of his passes are short dump offs. Screw Griffin and the Skins.


Exactly this... PLEASE stop telling me about his passer rating and completion %.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

Griffin is terrible at protecting himself. He's fast but not nearly as athletic as Cam or Vick.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

He is another Vick. Can't pass worth a damn and is nothing without his legs. He is also more injury prone than Vick so I don't see him lasting very long also.


Nice, completely ignorant statement there.

As of right now he's more accurate than Cam.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

Are people on this site really that paranoid about having the 'zomg best new qb on the block' that they are willing to throw each and every other young QB on the bus?

Because if you watch Griffin and don't come away impressed, then there is something wrong with you. I don't see why so many here ALWAYS have to make it a competition and don't tell me that isn't what is in the back of your mind. Because that is the only explanation for why so many people here love to hate on the guy. The funny thing is you guys are also the same people who will jump on anyone who says 1 negative thing about Cam.

And by the way, Newton is already one of my favorite players of all-time. I love the guy. But I also realize there happen to be other very good young QBs out there too and am not going to throw each one under the bus just to hype up mine.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

mage, the Homer Kool Aid causes one to lose all forms of objectivity and ability to see the landscape for what it is.

unreal the blindness here today.


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