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Is Cam just a bad read option QB?


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#11 MadHatter

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:31 AM

Im 100% convinced fans have no clue what they are talking about when they go to the "teams will have tape" theory. You could use the same logic in reverse. RG3 could get tape of a defense, and adjust just as easily.


I believe you are the one who has no clue what they are talking about.

RGIII is "already" studying tape on the defenses that he was playing. The fact is that there was basically NO tape on RGIII or the style of offense that Shanahan created in Washington. Teams did not know what to expect or game plan for.

Now, teams will study the 2012 tape more and adjust.

Not saying that RGIII's success will be less next season because of it. But, your reverse logic comment was basically no logic at all.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:33 AM

Because his oline played better and the RB was a factor. Cam didn't really have that.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:36 AM

I believe you are the one who has no clue what they are talking about.

RGIII is "already" studying tape on the defenses that he was playing. The fact is that there was basically NO tape on RGIII or the style of offense that Shanahan created in Washington. Teams did not know what to expect or game plan for.

Now, teams will study the 2012 tape more and adjust.

Not saying that RGIII's success will be less next season because of it. But, your reverse logic comment was basically no logic at all.


So why have Brady, Peyton etc gone on decade long runs, with the almighty tape in the hands of defenses?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:37 AM

So why have Brady, Peyton etc gone on decade long runs, with the almighty tape in the hands of defenses?



Because their teams don't run a college offense.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:38 AM

It's a question of timing, you have to setup the read-option.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:41 AM

So why have Brady, Peyton etc gone on decade long runs, with the almighty tape in the hands of defenses?


go back and check out what Miami did with the Wildcat.

Something very different than what teams were accustomed to seeing. They were VERY successful in running it for ONE season. Once teams figured it out....they shut it down.

Go back and watch the 1996 Panthers Defense. Dom Capers was running an exotic defensive scheme (gimmick). It was VERY successful until GB showed how to play it. Then it was shut down.

Gimmick offenses and defenses (something no one has seen before) are usually VERY short lived in the NFL. Teams figure them out and they are basically shut down.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:42 AM

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:43 AM

go back and check out what Miami did with the Wildcat.

Something very different than what teams were accustomed to seeing. They were VERY successful in running it for ONE season. Once teams figured it out....they shut it down.

Go back and watch the 1996 Panthers Defense. Dom Capers was running an exotic defensive scheme (gimmick). It was VERY successful until GB showed how to play it. Then it was shut down.

Gimmick offenses and defenses (something no one has seen before) are usually VERY short lived in the NFL. Teams figure them out and they are basically shut down.


Ok fair enough, but my question was why was it shut down HERE, and nowhere else. It worked for everybody else, except us. Even for a guy without a knee.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

Because its not exactly the same everywhere. Cam and RGIII don't execute the plays identically and have different tendencies that have to be studied.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:27 AM

Run Option works here.
It's one of our more productive plays (yards/snap).

It's the other peices that don't work, that leads to the Read Option hate, b/c God forbid we mention DWill runs like a pussy for 75% of his plays this season.


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