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[chknwing]

mr scot's write up was better.

exactly

[Mr. Scot]

I think the Panthers new GM will be one of the 6 mentioned in the Observer article. If I had to guess I'd say it'll be Gettleman because Accorsi's been trying to get him a GM job for a while now.

I know Ross is interviewing today.

Wondering if the previous ties Ross has to Rivera and Sean McDermott will factor in. Having ties to a coach who's expected to be on the hot seat could be a double-edged sword.

[UNCrules2187]

To follow up on Gamble, looks like he tanked his Jets interview:

After three interviews with the Jaguars, Falcons director of player personnel Dave Caldwell has yet to be hired as the General Manager in Jacksonville. Instead, he’ll interview a second time for the G.M. job with the Jets.

So what’s going on? Glad you asked. (Even if you didn’t.)

As we hear it, both teams want Caldwell. But one league source says that Caldwell and the Jaguars had a financial gap that couldn’t be bridged, which has prompted Caldwell to explore more seriously the opportunity in New York.

And the opportunity in New York has arisen for Caldwell in part because, as we hear it, Tom Gamble’s interview with the Jets didn’t go well.

For Caldwell, there’s a chance he overplays his hand and ends up staying at Oregon. I mean, Atlanta.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/08/money-could-drive-caldwell-from-jags-to-jets/

[csx]

I read my local paper and watch local and national news. I only have so much free time.

do you subscribe to the Wilmington Star online?

If the Panthers played in Wilmington I would think everyone here would certainly do so..

[Mr. Scot]

If the Panthers played in Wilmington I would think everyone here would certainly do so..

Pretty much.

[L-TownCat]

Gotta think that the first interview wont be the last here in Charlotte. I know the consensus here is that everyone wants Ross, the problem being he is the first interview we have. Unless he really shines in the office with JR i don't see us hiring him today and we have too many interviews for him to wait for a call back. Hope I'm wrong though.

[Mr. Scot]

Ross satisfies the Rooney Rule, so technically once he's interviewed the team is free to hire whomever they want (obviously including him).

But I agree that they'll probably do their due diligence with all viable candidates.

[Goondal]

Personally, from what little I know about each guy I really like Gettleman the best. Everywhere he has been he has been a part of a successful franchise. That being said, Ross seems to be a very hot commodity around the league, and his youth is obviously a plus. I would be satisfied with either.

[UNCrules2187]

This will sound "ageist," but I wish Gettleman was 10-15 years younger lol. I don't know why, but it would make me feel better. I suppose it's in the same vein of question that people have of Ross. Some bring up that Ross has gone on so many interviews but hasn't gotten an offer. Well, Gettleman seems to be a very well respected guy, yet he's been stuck in the same position for 13 (I think) years. Why?

To be clear, I'd be happy with either as our new GM, just throwing out a devil's advocate PoV.

[Mr. Scot]

This will sound "ageist," but I wish Gettleman was 10-15 years younger lol. I don't know why, but it would make me feel better. I suppose it's in the same vein of question that people have of Ross. Some bring up that Ross has gone on so many interviews but hasn't gotten an offer. Well, Gettleman seems to be a very well respected guy, yet he's been stuck in the same position for 13 (I think) years. Why?

To be clear, I'd be happy with either as our new GM, just throwing out a devil's advocate PoV.

Ross is young, but not inexperienced.

Of the candidates we have, he's tied for the second most NFL scouting experience (16 years, same as Paton, behind only Gettleman who's been at it for 25 years).

My ideal situation would be to hire Gettleman for the job now but also hire his eventual successor at the same time, putting him in a position like Director of Player Personnel or some such (something we don't have right now).

Have said before that I'd absolutely love to get both Gettleman as the GM of the present and Ross as his heir apparent, but that's a pipe dream.

[UNCrules2187]

Ross is young, but not inexperienced.

Of the candidates we have, he's tied for the second most NFL scouting experience (16 years, same as Paton, behind only Gettleman who's been at it for 25 years).

My ideal situation would be to hire Gettleman for the job now but also hire his eventual successor at the same time, putting him in a position like Director of Player Personnel or some such (something we don't have right now).

Have said before that I'd absolutely love to get both Gettleman as the GM of the present and Ross as his heir apparent, but that's a pipe dream.

Which is why if the pipe dream scenario is exactly that, a pipe dream, if we have to go one or the other, I would prefer Ross. I want someone that preferably could hold the job down for the next decade and beyond. While I'm sure Gettleman could do that, just how long does he plan on working in an NFL front office? He's already in his 60s, is he really going to want the NFL GM grind in 5 years? 10 years? Just makes me a little bit uncomfortable.

However, if he's determined to be the best man for the job, then you hire him.

[ElkinPanthersFan]

mr scot's write up was better.

Well considering how most of the Observer articles are based on posts from the huddle. Their version has to be watered down a little to not look identical.

[Mr. Scot]

Which is why if the pipe dream scenario is exactly that, a pipe dream, if we have to go one or the other, I would prefer Ross. I want someone that preferably could hold the job down for the next decade and beyond. While I'm sure Gettleman could do that, just how long does he plan on working in an NFL front office? He's already in his 60s, is he really going to want the NFL GM grind in 5 years? 10 years? Just makes me a little bit uncomfortable.

However, if he's determined to be the best man for the job, then you hire him.

Granted, but what if the best guy for the job right now is Gettleman?

These next few years in Carolina may be rough ones for whomever gets the position. Handing the ship over to a younger guy like Ross might ruin him right out of the gate, whereas letting someone with more experience steer until we're through the rough water (while Ross learns on the job) and then handing the wheel over and saying "you take it from here" might be more practical.

Mind you, there are other guys who could potentially serve as the GM in waiting behind Gettleman. Ken Sternfeld and Kevin Abrams come to mind (though I'll grant Sternfeld's not that much younger than Gettleman, from what I know).

I'd add that if either Ross or Gettleman is named GM, I'd love for them to find a way to steal Kevin Abrams to serve as the team's cap manager.

[jgraham]

Granted, but what if the best guy for the job right now is Gettleman?

These next few years in Carolina may be rough ones for whomever gets the position. Handing the ship over to a younger guy like Ross might ruin him right out of the gate, whereas letting someone with more experience steer until we're through the rough water (while Ross learns on the job) and then handing the wheel over and saying "you take it from here" might be more practical.

Mind you, there are other guys who could potentially serve as the GM in waiting behind Gettleman. Ken Sternfeld and Kevin Abrams come to mind (though I'll grant Sternfeld's not that much younger than Gettleman, from what I know).

Hello Mr Scot - Can you just briefly explain to me what the key jobs are for a GM? There are lots of different roles within an organisation and i'm not entirely sure who does what.

Cheers