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darin gantt "Panthers keep finding scapegoats, bigger problem remains"


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#136 carolinarolls

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:53 PM

meh, Gantt just clearly took a seat on the Rivera should go bandwagon awhile back.....that opinion is all over his Panther reporting.


ahh, i don't read him. never liked him cuz he seemed like such an ass kissing, injury blaming, Panthers org. mouthpiece.

shame. I thought he finally grew a pair.

#137 Proudiddy

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:42 PM

You obviously have an axe to grind as well. You wanted Rivera gone and now blame him for everything happening. Fine.

But going back and forth seems useless. You and I obviously are working on different assumptions about the team and coaches. Nothing I say will change your mind so I won't waste my time.

No, I don't have an axe to grind. I find it hilarious that when anyone doesn't take the company line from our front office that they are "bitter" or have an "axe to grind."

As with anything, there are two sides of the argument here between you and I... Odds are the truth lies somewhere in between.

I was just elaborating on my point P55, because you asked for an explanation of why I thought what I did or felt what I felt about the situation. So, I explained it. But, then you continued to insinuate that I was being irrational or speaking purely out of emotion because my stance didn't jibe with yours.

It's fine to disagree. I appreciate your posts and perspective. But, I don't like feeling like someone is being condescending towards my view when it is just as grounded or as far-fetched as theirs depending on how you view it. I don't see anything that differentiates my opinion from yours as far as what it is based on, we just differ on the opinion itself.

No big deal, and if you don't want to debate it, that's understandable... I'd just prefer you didn't write it off as irrational or emotion-based because you don't agree with it, because it isn't.

#138 raleigh-panther

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

i don't have anything to add to this and i don't even agree with a lot of it. i just thought it should appear again.


Rayzor, problems with the Huddle network caused multiple posts.

You have your opinions and I have mine, Its ok to not agree.

Kelly will get his chance. It will be interesting to see what he does with it.

#139 PantherBrew

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

No, I don't have an axe to grind. I find it hilarious that when anyone doesn't take the company line from our front office that they are "bitter" or have an "axe to grind."

As with anything, there are two sides of the argument here between you and I... Odds are the truth lies somewhere in between.

I was just elaborating on my point P55, because you asked for an explanation of why I thought what I did or felt what I felt about the situation. So, I explained it. But, then you continued to insinuate that I was being irrational or speaking purely out of emotion because my stance didn't jibe with yours.

It's fine to disagree. I appreciate your posts and perspective. But, I don't like feeling like someone is being condescending towards my view when it is just as grounded or as far-fetched as theirs depending on how you view it. I don't see anything that differentiates my opinion from yours as far as what it is based on, we just differ on the opinion itself.

No big deal, and if you don't want to debate it, that's understandable... I'd just prefer you didn't write it off as irrational or emotion-based because you don't agree with it, because it isn't.


Get out of here with your rational, polite debate. This is America.

#140 fjblair

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:45 PM

Everybody can bicth and whine about Gantt being an idiot all day long but he is absolutely dead on. Perfect summary of the Panthers situation. The problem is Jerry Richardson is largely clueless about how to construct a winning team. A good businessman does not necessarily make for an owner of winning NFL franchise. It's been proven over and over and over.

#141 panthers55

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

No, I don't have an axe to grind. I find it hilarious that when anyone doesn't take the company line from our front office that they are "bitter" or have an "axe to grind."

As with anything, there are two sides of the argument here between you and I... Odds are the truth lies somewhere in between.

I was just elaborating on my point P55, because you asked for an explanation of why I thought what I did or felt what I felt about the situation. So, I explained it. But, then you continued to insinuate that I was being irrational or speaking purely out of emotion because my stance didn't jibe with yours.

It's fine to disagree. I appreciate your posts and perspective. But, I don't like feeling like someone is being condescending towards my view when it is just as grounded or as far-fetched as theirs depending on how you view it. I don't see anything that differentiates my opinion from yours as far as what it is based on, we just differ on the opinion itself.

No big deal, and if you don't want to debate it, that's understandable... I'd just prefer you didn't write it off as irrational or emotion-based because you don't agree with it, because it isn't.


But you do have an axe to grind and your logic doesn't make sense to me at all. You are free to call it condescending if you prefer but the fact is that if you are going to criticize the staff and coaches then the onus of proof is on you. And I see very little in your argument that bears any resemblance to facts just your speculation of what happened. Unlike my posts which don't have conspiracy theories like scapegoating and the like. I believe he fired him because he didn't like some aspect of how they coached and wants an upgrade. To me that is a whole lot easier to defend then making up some conspiracy theory that he had to fire people to make it look like he doing something right and that he was just trying to protect Chud. And I don't agree that the position coaches were doing such a good job that he sacrificed them but let others stay for no good reason.

So forgive me for not wanting to debate back and forth, I just see very little in your argument that rings close to the truth for me. Maybe it is me but I didn't believe other conspiracy theories like the world was going to end on December 21st either. So it isn't not wanting to debate so much as there is nothing new you said that makes me think we need to keep debating. I don't think you are right and don't agree with any of your conclusions. What else is there to say.

I do respect your opinions but disagree with them. We can agree to disagree but unless your theories are confirmed it is all speculation. You are welcome to believe what ever you want, I am just not in agreement.

#142 run1stdownrun2nddown

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

"Teflon Ron"

That's some good, unbiased, objective based reporting there!


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