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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

i wonder if they will be forming a department of analytics. probably wouldn't hear much about it if they do. it tends to be one of the hush hush areas.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:52 PM

I go into that a bit above, but yes, I imagine they would. They've dealt with outside analysis before, and that's fine. I think that could become a standard in the same way that teams share scouting info from BLESTO or National Scouting. But some of that has to be crunched internally, proprietary information that you can't also get by having $30 worth of membership to PFF.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

Yea, Hurney was a do it self type of Guy. That's one of the reasons he was considered a grinder and hard worker by many. Same thing with Beane. They both handled multiple jobs that most teams have 12 or so people doing. Take a look at the Panther's front office and compare it to other teams.

http://www.azcardina...am/staff.html�� - they have 11 people handling personnel decisions... Scouting, trades...ext.

http://www.panthers....team/staff.html - Hurney and a the two directors handled pretty much everything when it came to personnel decisions and so forth. They have scouts that aren't listed, but Hurney pretty much took everything into his own hands. He'd personally scout for most of the season, he was everywhere during the off season looking at players. He took a lot of responsibility off of his head scouts that he didn't need too.

http://www.giants.com/team/staff.html - They have a similar front office, but they have about a dozen scouts handling and a more structured organization.

Could go on and on, but like I said expect a couple of additional positions under Gettleman here in the Carolina Front Office.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

Yea, Hurney was a do it self type of Guy. That's one of the reasons he was considered a grinder and hard worker by many. Same thing with Beane. They both handled multiple jobs that most teams have 12 or so people doing. Take a look at the Panther's front office and compare it to other teams.

http://www.azcardina...am/staff.html�� - they have 11 people handling personnel decisions... Scouting, trades...ext.

http://www.panthers....team/staff.html - Hurney and a the two directors handled pretty much everything when it came to personnel decisions and so forth.

http://www.giants.com/team/staff.html - They have a similar front office, but they have about a dozen scouts handling what a few did in Carolina.

Could go on and on, but like I said expect a couple of additional positions under Gettleman here in the Carolina Front Office.


Not arguing that other teams use more people than the panthers do, but obviously those websites just publicly list more positions than the panthers do. (The panthers have more than 1 athletic trainer for example). I'm sure there are plenty of scouts that work for the panthers and aren't listed just like other departments only list the directors.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

Having just a very few guys who do everything is how the Bengals work.

I'd absolutely prefer that we emulate someone more consistently successful.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

It's highly possible (some might even say likely) that Dave Gettleman won't be the only new name added to the Panthers front office this offseason. Ernie Accorsi's job as a consultant gave him the ability to suggest changes in front office structure. It's also reasonable to think Gettleman will want to put his own imprint on the organization, and do so with some people he knows and trusts.

Here are a few guys from the Giants that could conceivably be brought along and what roles they could fill.


Matt Harriss, Giants Director of Football Operations

Spent five years in the League Management Office where he worked with the salary cap and CBA. Has been assisting the front office with salary cap management and contract negotiation since 2006. Was mentioned by Giants reporter Mike Garafolo when asked by the WFNZ guys who Gettleman could conceivably bring with him. Would likely make a very good cap manager.

(Giants.com bio)


Matt Shauger, Giants Pro Scout

Ten years experience as a pro scout. Helped author a 125 page report on the Patriots that became the basis for the Giants game plan when they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Could be a solid replacement for current Director of Pro Scouting Mark Koncz and possibly even serve as a guy Gettleman could groom to be his eventual replacement.

(Giants.com bio)


Joe Collins, Executive Scout

Collins has actually been in the scouting game even longer than Gettleman. He has 40 years of experience doing both college and pro scouting. From 1999-2001 he was Director of Player Personnel for the newly re-formed Cleveland Browns. He could hold the same role here if the Panthers decided to recreate that position (which, in my opinion, would be a good idea).

(Giants.com bio)


Jeremiah Davis / Steve Verderosa, Executive Scouts

Two more guys each having 25 years of scouting experience. Davis was once a coach and a recruiter in the college ranks. Verderosa previously worked in the scouting department of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Should the Panthers decide to part with with current Director of College Scouting Don Gregory, either of these two might be considered as a viable replacement.

(Giants.com bio - Davis)

(Giants.com bio - Verderosa)


To be clear, the Giants would have to give permission for any interviews. Also should be noted that there are plenty of other names to consider from the Giants and other teams where Gettleman has worked. Regardless, these are a few names to start a discussion of what other changes the front office might see.


Outstanding work MrScot.

Damn, if I owned a business I would hire your ass.

BTW, you are Scottish, correct?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:08 PM

How crazy would it be if we were able to land Marc Ross (dreaming I know...)

I believe Harris is guy that most likely lands here to be our "Cap Guy"

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

How crazy would it be if we were able to land Marc Ross (dreaming I know...)

I believe Harris is guy that most likely lands here to be our "Cap Guy"


That is not dreaming, that is very possible.

Ross knows Gettleman's age.


<Hey Ross, come over here>

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

I go into that a bit above, but yes, I imagine they would. They've dealt with outside analysis before, and that's fine. I think that could become a standard in the same way that teams share scouting info from BLESTO or National Scouting. But some of that has to be crunched internally, proprietary information that you can't also get by having $30 worth of membership to PFF.

by the way, as a followup, the Giants' analytics guy is Joe Berger, director of football information. He was with the Knicks prior to the Giants, and it's not something that requires you to be a long-standing member of the football world.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:19 PM

That is not dreaming, that is very possible.

Ross knows Gettleman's age.


<Hey Ross, come over here>


I don't see it... I'd gladly admit to being wrong though

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Seriously can we combo our Gettleman with a side of Ross?

That would be a coup so immense I can't think of anything that would metaphorically do the sheer immenseness of that justice to compare it to

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:30 PM

Seriously can we combo our Gettleman with a side of Ross?

That would be a coup so immense I can't think of anything that would metaphorically do the sheer immenseness of that justice to compare it to


I would sht my pants tomorrow at work if I read this came true.