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#20 NC State vs. #1 Duke


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I am worried, typical trap game and without Kelly I don't know who will guard Wood. I guess our best option would be Sheed or Murphy. Key matchup has to be Cook versus Brown and can State stop Plumlee.

Huh? Kelly would've never guarded Wood to begin with. Sheed would have and will be on Wood.

Either Sheed, Murphy, or Jefferson will have to step up, as not all 3 of Mason, Curry, and Cook will have great games IMO. If State can actually play defense in spurts, or get Mason in foul trouble, I like their chances.

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Huh? Kelly would've never guarded Wood to begin with. Sheed would have and will be on Wood.

Either Sheed, Murphy, or Jefferson will have to step up, as not all 3 of Mason, Curry, and Cook will have great games IMO. If State can actually play defense in spurts, or get Mason in foul trouble, I like their chances.

Kelly guards any position 3-5 so he would have guarded Wood depending on the lineup, but I was more saying I don't know who matches up with Wood period. Sheed is the only guard we have that is tall enough that Wood can't shoot over. Kelly is probably our best defender since he can basically defend those 3 positions and leads the team in blocks and is 4th on the team in steals.

I agree that one of the three out of Sheed, Murph, and Jefferson will have to step up and they will get their chance so we will have to see if they take advantage of it. It should be a good matchup and State has to be pissed that they blew that big lead last year.

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I think we lose personally. I dont see us going undefeated and I think the game is much bigger for state. Add in raleigh and the first game without Kelly. Duke is set up to lose. As long as we dont lose to unc im good!!

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Don't blame us blame Richard Foul.

I think Richard has fouled out of one game this year so far. He had 1 foul last night thru about 30 mins while playing against two monster big men. Last year we blew a 20pt lead in part because the refs got ticky tack. You can't deny it...so well see what happens but the refs need to let these teams play down low and of you're going to be ticky tack they better be that way on both ends. Because everyone knows Duke plays D by reaching in.

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Ryan Kelly guarding most any 3 in D1 is bad news and rarely ever happens. Wood flat out sucks outside of shooting the ball...but watching Kelly chase him through ball screens would be laughable.

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Ryan Kelly guarding most any 3 in D1 is bad news and rarely ever happens. Wood flat out sucks outside of shooting the ball...but watching Kelly chase him through ball screens would be laughable.

Actually Duke switches on most screens and Kelly can hold his own against 3's especially 3's that have Scott Wood's skill set.

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I think Richard has fouled out of one game this year so far. He had 1 foul last night thru about 30 mins while playing against two monster big men. Last year we blew a 20pt lead in part because the refs got ticky tack. You can't deny it...so well see what happens but the refs need to let these teams play down low and of you're going to be ticky tack they better be that way on both ends. Because everyone knows Duke plays D by reaching in.

That's funny since the second half of the game last year State was called for 14 fouls and Duke was called for 12, and keep in mind two of those State fouls were intentional in the last minute to stop the clock and hopefully get the ball back. I do agree to letting the teams play, the officials in the unc/Miami game last night let both teams play and it made for an enjoyable game to watch unlike a free throw shooting contest.

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Actually Duke switches on most screens and Kelly can hold his own against 3's especially 3's that have Scott Wood's skill set.

Every team switches on screens?...it's what you do on defense and why people run screens, to create mismatches.

I grew up a Duke fan/still watch every game, I know what kind of player Kelly is. The double screens and reverses Wood runs along the baseline...6-11, slow ass Ryan Kelly cannot keep up with. The 3's from GT the other night obviously couldn't, and Kelly sure as hell won't. Sheed, Murphy, Amile, and even Curry will be on Wood more than Kelly ever will.

I mean, essentially with your original assumption of Kelly guarding Wood...you're having who exactly guard Leslie at the 4? Mason? Then Sheed guard Howell? Your original assumption was laughable...now with your "Duke switches on screens" comment...it's getting sadder.

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That's funny since the second half of the game last year State was called for 14 fouls and Duke was called for 12, and keep in mind two of those State fouls were intentional in the last minute to stop the clock and hopefully get the ball back. I do agree to letting the teams play, the officials in the unc/Miami game last night let both teams play and it made for an enjoyable game to watch unlike a free throw shooting contest.

Right but what you aren't taking into account is that Duke basically hacked the crap out of our guys in the post while Seth Curry and Austin Rivers dribbled around 15 feet from the bucket the whole game and still drew fouls. The foul disparity shouldn't have even been close considering the style of play by both teams. But because Duke gets away with reaching against everyone and their guards shoulder into the defender to create contact 15 feet from the bucket (which technically isn't a foul on the defender)...the fouls were close.

Watch the game and you will see that Duke's "aggressive" style of defense on the perimeter will rarely get called for a reach in and their opponent will get called every time for the same style of play.

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Every team switches on screens?...it's what you do on defense and why people run screens, to create mismatches.

I grew up a Duke fan/still watch every game, I know what kind of player Kelly is. The double screens and reverses Wood runs along the baseline...6-11, slow ass Ryan Kelly cannot keep up with. The 3's from GT the other night obviously couldn't, and Kelly sure as hell won't. Sheed, Murphy, Amile, and even Curry will be on Wood more than Kelly ever will.

I mean, essentially with your original assumption of Kelly guarding Wood...you're having who exactly guard Leslie at the 4? Mason? Then Sheed guard Howell? Your original assumption was laughable...now with your "Duke switches on screens" comment...it's getting sadder.

Not every team plans to switch on screens some teams try and fight through. Have you ever heard of Switching M2M vs. M2M straight up? M2M straight up is where you fight through the screen to stay with your man compared to Switching M2M which means you switch off the player you are guarding when the screen is set. Come on son that is middle school basketball knowledge.

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Right but what you aren't taking into account is that Duke basically hacked the crap out of our guys in the post while Seth Curry and Austin Rivers dribbled around 15 feet from the bucket the whole game and still drew fouls. The foul disparity shouldn't have even been close considering the style of play by both teams. But because Duke gets away with reaching against everyone and their guards shoulder into the defender to create contact 15 feet from the bucket (which technically isn't a foul on the defender)...the fouls were close.

Watch the game and you will see that Duke's "aggressive" style of defense on the perimeter will rarely get called for a reach in and their opponent will get called every time for the same style of play.

Damn that is a lot of crying/bitching/moaning. Richard Howell fouled out of 5 games last year and had 14 games with 4 fouls so the guy was a fouling machine. I mean the difference in the game was how much better we shot the ball from 3 in the second half, 40% compared to 14% in the first half. Plus we only turned the ball over twice in the second half.

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Not every team plans to switch on screens some teams try and fight through. Have you ever heard of Switching M2M vs. M2M straight up? M2M straight up is where you fight through the screen to stay with your man compared to Switching M2M which means you switch off the player you are guarding when the screen is set. Come on son that is middle school basketball knowledge.

No poo you fight through screens in M2M. Everyone tries to fight through screens and everyone switches depending on the situations...it's all a part of M2M/Basketball in general. But again, and as you ignored this post, you also thought Kelly would be matched up on Wood. And you're questioning my knowledge? Lulz.

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