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A quick Look back at Chud

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I agree that the other factors played their part, but had the offence been more efficient the other factors wouldn't have been has pivotal. You could also argue that the defence, not the offence, did their job and that was why we were in the lead going into the fourth.

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You will see the defense get burned on the same plays several times in the 4th quarter. Tampa and Chicago called the same plays OVER and OVER and came back from double digit deficits to win. Then you got Teflon Ron calling time outs at the wrong times and never knowing when to go for it on 4th, kick a FG or punt....it was a combo of poor defense execution and Teflon Ron not knowing how to close out.

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Are you trying to tell me that we don't have the best trio of RBs in the league? And we do have this QB named Cam Newton. Let's not forget Greg Olsen, LaFell and Murphy (for what their worth). I can easily argue that this team is more talented on offense (even though we are sans Muhammad). We just have to put these fine tools into the right hands.

Was it so-called "Henning ball" or Foxball that was the real thorn in our side?

Oddly enough my brother and I refer to Murphy as The Worthless One

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Oddly enough my brother and I refer to Murphy as The Worthless One

Funny part is when they say he is learning the system.....doesn't explain not being able to catch the ball when it hits your hands.

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Funny part is when they say he is learning the system.....doesn't explain not being able to catch the ball when it hits your hands.

Well we did get him from Oakland. It is possible that catching the ball is not part of their system.

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Oddly enough my brother and I refer to Murphy as The Worthless One

***top dawg grinning***

May be a little bit harsh. He had good and bad moments. Probably not consistent enough to be a WR2, but he and Cam do have history. In light of how our offensive talent was used (or misused, as it were) during the first part of the season, I want to give any receiver not named Smitty or Olsen a pass for being lost within Chud's whirlpool of wizardry---much like the RBs---along with Newton's resulting tunnel vision and loss of direction, but it's painfully obvious that we need an immediate upgrade at WR.

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***top dawg grinning***

May be a little bit harsh. He had good and bad moments. Probably not consistent enough to be a WR2, but he and Cam do have history. In light of how our offensive talent was used (or misused, as it were) during the first part of the season, I want to give any receiver not named Smitty or Olsen a pass for being lost within Chud's whirlpool of wizardry---much like the RBs---along with Newton's resulting tunnel vision and loss of direction, but it's painfully obvious that we need an immediate upgrade at WR.

Yes we do. Hopefully Gettleman has some Cruz-like pick-ups in his near future.

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You will see the defense get burned on the same plays several times in the 4th quarter. Tampa and Chicago called the same plays OVER and OVER and came back from double digit deficits to win. Then you got Teflon Ron calling time outs at the wrong times and never knowing when to go for it on 4th, kick a FG or punt....it was a combo of poor defense execution and Teflon Ron not knowing how to close out.

Once again I'm not disagreeing that those things played their part. The Chicago game in particular was a disgrace defensively in the 4th. However you have to admit, that the offence was inept for the first 8 weeks and was part of us starting 1-6.

Not to mention in those first 7 games, we didn't score over 20 points in 4 of them. I would like to know our offensive rank at that point in the season.

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Once again I'm not disagreeing that those things played their part. The Chicago game in particular was a disgrace defensively in the 4th. However you have to admit, that the offence was inept for the first 8 weeks and was part of us starting 1-6.

Not to mention in those first 7 games, we didn't score over 20 points in 4 of them. I would like to know our offensive rank at that point in the season.

20 points should be enough to win a game especially if you are leading.

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In today's nfl, scoring below 20 points won't win games unless you have a top 10 defence.

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no really he made DA a pro bowler, did you not know this? So yeah keep believing its all Cam.

I'm not saying Cam had nothing to do with it but Chud schemed to offense to Cams strengths and did an excellent job of doing that

i was kidding when i said that. But seriously he may have schemed the offense to Cam's strengths but he OVERDID it constantly, and defintely did not scheme right on many 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2's. The read option was not working, why did he continue it? Don't even get me started on the wildcat formations that fooled no one. He did an excellent job last year, then poo the bed. This isnt classified information everyone knows this.

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i was kidding when i said that. But seriously he may have schemed the offense to Cam's strengths but he OVERDID it constantly, and defintely did not scheme right on many 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2's. The read option was not working, why did he continue it? Don't even get me started on the wildcat formations that fooled no one. He did an excellent job last year, then poo the bed. This isnt classified information everyone knows this.

number 12 offense pooing the bed? I dont think u get offers for being a head coach for being a idiot. chud may have tried to do to much with cam early, hell people make mistakes. but the guy was a great offensive cord. the stats prove it. the offensive output proves it. i dont see what ur arguing.

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number 12 offense pooing the bed? I dont think u get offers for being a head coach for being a idiot. chud may have tried to do to much with cam early, hell people make mistakes. but the guy was a great offensive cord. the stats prove it. the offensive output proves it. i dont see what ur arguing.

He got one offer....to the Browns. The poo stain of the nfl. I dont know how you are not getting this. Chud screwed us the first 7 or 8 games of the season. Hes a great offensive coordinator but he overthinks and tries to outsmart the competition. We were 7-9 with his offensive play calling. Im not saying hes an awful oc in general. Hes just awful when it really matters. I dont understand why this is so hard to understand. We put up insane offensive numbers, u can blame the defense for some losses, but a lot if the time the offense was in position to win games with one or two first downs and he would call ridiculous wildcat or read optiin plays that were not working the previous three quarters.

And we can debate semantics all day, but Chud rarely called the right plays when it really mattered

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