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It's expected by most that Rob Chudzinski will take Scott Turner with him to Cleveland.

Worth noting though that Norv's son may not be the only guy who goes.

Chudzinski may well try to take some others with him. And if you're combining your thinking on that to the offensive side of the ball, think again. The Browns are going to need defensive staff too. Like many new head coaches, it's reasonable to expect Chudzinski may cast an eye toward his former employer.

The good news? The Panthers would have to grant permission for anyone Chudzinski wanted to interview. But with that said, Chudzinski amd Coach Ron Rivera are on good terms and the team has generally been willing to allow coaches to seek opportunities to advance. It's possible they may even allow guys to look into lateral moves as well.

And while we're focused on the flux caused by Chudzinski's departure, let's not forget the team already had three positions to fill before any of this happened. Four if you count Special teams Coach, and given that the team just interviewed Dave Toub, I'd say you should.

Yeesh :unsure:

We all knew we were going into next season with a new GM, but outside of that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us expected most everything else to remain relatively calm. Instead, this offseason is turning out to be wilder and more unpredictable than anyone expected.

And it's not over yet.

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This offseason for us has been a busy start. I'm curious to see what's next in the pipeline. Things are surely getting interesting

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im not looking forward to it anymore.
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We [i]could[/i] wind up better off overall.

Reasonable to think we're already better at GM.
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Cleveland might become Carolina North!

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1357889292' post='2090002']
We [i]could[/i] wind up better off overall.

Reasonable to think we're already better at GM.
[/quote]new OC could set this offense back. I'm even less confident in rivera than i was last week.
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the goodwill in letting him interview and take our coaches should be lost when he knowingly left us without a replacement by pilfering norv

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New OC could push us forward as well. Look at Atlanta, they kept their head coach but get a new OC/dc and now there are at the top of the NFC. This could be good. Curious to see who we bring in.
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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357889594' post='2090005']
new OC could set this offense back. I'm even less confident in rivera than i was last week.
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Possible, but improvement is possible as well.

We'll have a better idea once we see who gets the open jobs.

(and who else departs, and who replaces them, and...aaaahhh screw it, I'm going to bed)

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Well all i can say is chud leaving made this an interesting off season.

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I held my breath when I clicked this topic, hoping it wasn't a PT bi-polar rant. Instead it was an awesome well thought out Mr. Scot thread! Life is awesome sometimes!

This offseason has been very tumultuous, given how quiet everything was leading up to this week. New GM, fired assistants, OC gone to the browns. This is really an interesting time for us fans. I can't wait to see how it all pans out.

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One final tidbit for the night.

Being reported that Chudzinski plans to have a 3-4 defense in Cleveland.

For the record, DB coach Steve Wilks would be familiar with a 3-4 system from the years Rivera ran one in San Diego.

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1357890550' post='2090017']
One final tidbit for the night.

Being reported that Chudzinski plans to have a 3-4 defense in Cleveland.

For the record, DB coach Steve Wilks would be familiar with a 3-4 system from the years Rivera ran one in San Diego.
[/quote]you just want to add to the stress level, don't you?

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Cleveland Panthers!!! Am I doing it right?

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None of this phases me or surprises me at all. I had chalked up that Chud was gonna be gone; albeit I thought he would have been fired... In any case, even if he would have been fired, he "likely" would have taken Turners son with him anyways.

Turners son going with him is speculation at this point anyways.

OC candidates I want... And in this order:

Norv Turner
Turners son (gets promotion)
Shula (If we can't get Norv/and Turners son goes with Chud)

Only reason I say Shula, is because he sat on the sidelines and knows what/how the players really felt in real time all season last year. It also gives Cam some continuity and he already trusts Shula (assumption on my part)

Everything will shake out in the next few days... And either way, we're better off without Chud.
For the record though, Ron should have fired his ass right after he left the JR "sit down" another lesson learned for Ron.

I like what's going on right now tbh, we'll be better because of it.

Now, if we end up losing actual players... I will be fuggin pissed!

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we'll obviously be seeing hirings in the front office and the coaching staff as this offseason goes on. We may see quite a few more coaches gone. Who knows? I feel bad for Rivera but he has great connections all over and can get great coaches in here.

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anyone looking for what is likely to be a one year gig would love to come here I'm sure.

new GM probably means new HC next year.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357891939' post='2090038']
anyone looking for what is likely to be a one year gig would love to come here I'm sure.

new GM probably means new HC next year.
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True only if we suck

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True only if we suck
[/quote]I'm not ruling that possibility out, but hopefully the standard is higher than just not sucking. playoffs or we look for someone else. very least should be a winning season.

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I actually think it was Ron idea for Chud to seek a HC gig somewhere. This way Chud saves face by getting a gig elsewhere and not being fired a day after the WR and RB coaches were let go. Most agree on the huddle that Chud's early season playcalling was the reason for the team's 1-6 record maybe Ron felt the same way.
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If we land Toub, I'd say that we've made improvements at GM and ST. Now to see who the new RB, WR, and LB coaches will be.

Then of course, we get to find out who needs to be replaced on the roster. Something tells me to not expect Gamble and DWill returning next season and a restructuring for Gross and Beason (unless Beason wants to go somewhere he can be the starting MLB).

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<---- said the Panthers are going to clean house

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I dont mind the changes. Rivera will have this D improved once again and hopefully the new GM beefs up the OL and we all watch Cam and these running backs go ham on other teams next season.
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I'm so excited about the possibilities coming for this team. Things are happening so fast I can't wait to see what to come next.
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With Gentleman being our new GM and so many positions now open, he can bring in his own group of coaches. I know Rivera will have a say on the hires, but he is on a short leash. This is what we needed. Gentleman probably told Rivera to let some go and Chud saw his chance for a HC job and took it. We will start fresh with a new GM and several new coaches. This is not a bad thing.

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