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Chudzinski will be a train wreck of a head coach


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#25 Way Truth Life

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

2013 Cleveland Browns Opponents

Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago, Detroit,
Jacksonville

Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, New England, N.Y. Jets, Green Bay,
Minnesota, Kansas City


I think Browns are looking at 5-6 wins next season.


I'll give them 7-8.

I give the Panthers 3-5 considering the offense will have to learn a new playbook. Cam has been coddled for 2 years. It could get ugly with the wrong OC

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

You guys mad? All these threads bashing Chud. Using history to make an assumption is fine. Trying to use it to claim Chud is a future failure is lazy.

Going to be one of those days reading all these posts. Day off, crappy weather, and the wife at work. I hope I can endure all this drivel on a drizzly day.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

wasn't there a similar thread when Fox left? I sure hope Fox can land on his feet.


chud was a coordinator while fox was a head coach who has an NFC championship and winning record in the playoffs on his resume

great comparison bro

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

Cam has been coddled for 2 years.


i'm convinced you've never watched the panthers in your life

e: hold the phone, i remember you. you're that guy who suggested that chud to head coach of the panthers would be a desirable scenario a while back.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

i'm convinced you've never watched the panthers in your life

Every game at least 2 times due to NFL Rewind.

The play book was tailored to Cam and he was not allowed to audible until late late in the 2013 season.

Cam was coddled by Chud.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

Chud helped make and call plays with Norv while he was the TE coach in San Diego. They have a cute little relationship and I expect are trying to build on that. I don't think he'll necessarily fail, but...nevermind, he will fail.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

i'm convinced you've never watched the panthers in your life

e: hold the phone, i remember you. you're that guy who suggested that chud to head coach of the panthers would be a desirable scenario a while back.

Interim HC only until a GM was hired, then gut the entire team....that was my suggestion.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

Every game at least 2 times due to NFL Rewind.

The play book was tailored to Cam and he was not allowed to audible until late late in the 2013 season.

Cam was coddled by Chud.


he sure was being coddled in those martz-esque minimal pass protection schemes with play action that took 2 to 3 seconds to develop. how is being set up to fail (no audibling as you noted) being "coddled"? having the entire offense run through you is a funny definition of "coddled".

yeah i've watched every game multiple times too. you're crazy if you watch those games and think that the reason we were running that offense was because cam was too dumb for anything else.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

I'll give them 7-8.

I give the Panthers 3-5 considering the offense will have to learn a new playbook. Cam has been coddled for 2 years. It could get ugly with the wrong OC


Why is it do difficult for folks to believe that maybe we hire an OC that gets it? Why must it be worst case scenario with you folks?

3-5 wins. C'mon man. That is just down right silly.

Everyone seems to be behind Gettlemen. But in just a matter of days no one seems to feel he can take care of this.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

I wish Chud all the best! Now let´s look for the next OC. Hopefully he knows how to use RBs.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

he sure was being coddled in those martz-esque minimal pass protection schemes with play action that took 2 to 3 seconds to develop. how is being set up to fail (no audibling as you noted) being "coddled"? having the entire offense run through you is a funny definition of "coddled".

yeah i've watched every game multiple times too. you're crazy if you watch those games and think that the reason we were running that offense was because cam was too dumb for anything else.


Chud ran an offense that Cam was familiar with and could adapt to. If you actually watched the games, you would see that every game plan was different on offense depending on the opponent. Chud game planned every game and basically handed Cam the plays to call. I never said Cam was too dumb to audible, I said Chud coddled him, which he did by controlling the play book rather than forcing Cam to read the defense. That's coddled.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

If anything we did the opposite of coddling. Our game plan was to make the entire offense run through Newton, especially in year 2. He was going to be our leading rusher, passer and if Chud could have figured a way to do it, he would have lead in receptions as well. It was one of the reasons that whole "we lose if Cam throws an INT" thing was around for so long. By design, Cam had to carry everyone. Once we started firing people mid season, coaching pulled their heads from their asses and started calling a more pro/sane offensive strat and we looked a whole lot better.