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[quote name='DawgzLife' timestamp='1359316750' post='2116195']
I agree with most of your post definitely. Coaching was, of course, our biggest problem & I don't think that will improve next year. [b]If you look historically at Chud's coaching, he increases % of playbook in subsequent years (DA was hurt by it in Cleveland & Cam was hurt by it here...neither are top QBs when it come to football intelligence...true, even tho I love Cam). Complexity [u]was[/u] part of the issue, as was the "Madden-like playcalling"...they mean much the same thing.[/b] We need to use or RBs to decrease the amount forced on Cam...b/c Cam can be his own worst enemy (putting too much on his own shoulders....take this in context). Again, I think you are right on for most of your comments tho...this is just what I have exceptions with.

Year per game is not the best stat to list, b/c what matters is the differential between points scored & points the opponent scores against you per game (not overall); that is known as win-loss record. BTW, the offense TO diff was +1 for the year & we were top 10 in TDs scored. We were 21st in TD scored against our D. A lot of Cam's yards came in garbage time in both seasons. I can't say I think O & D were on par with each other & the fact that we lost so many close games shows our D did not always hold when we needed it.

In total, we have the same conclusion. Coaching is the problem. I don't think it will turn around tho. Rivera had to put his stamp on the D & that's his specialty. We were locky enough to have a great offensive mind for our offense, but we will see where our offense ends up next year. I think we will be wishing for Chud back...I really hope I am wrong tho. I think Rivera is gone after this next season.
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How many times does it need to be said that "taking things off Cam's plate", had nothing to do with the complexity of the offense for Cam to understand. When Rivera said that (and he confirmed this in other interviews), he was speaking MAINLY about the use of the Read Option. Because in the Read Option, Cam had to make decisions for himself as QB, as well as for the RB's and himself as a runner. That was a media conclusion, later clarified. Rivera has already discussed this in several interviews as the cause of the offenses problems (adjusted after Hurney's firing).

Steve Smith and other Panthers have discussed this on WFNZ , regarding Chud's offense and play calling the first half and through out the season. Smith said about Chud and the offense, 'stop stuffing plays down our throat that don't work, and start listening to your position coaches for input'. That was a paraphrase. But you get the point. And he's not the only player that's spoke like that, in light of Chud's departure. So it's not just "Huddler's" that feel that way or noticed Chud's shortcomings. Many of his schemes, early in the season, just didn't work.

I understand that you may like Chud, and feel he shouldn't have to shoulder all the blame. However, you're mischaracterizing what took place, especially when numerous individuals close to the Panthers have addressed it; i.e., Chud Fugged Up!! Not only did Chud have bad, repeated schemes the first 8 games. But his play calling throughout the year left something to be desired.

FYI: Cam was a more traditional QB the second half of the season (similar to his first), having to make longer reads, and operating out of Pro-Sets, so I don't get this "simplified" offense argument. That's already been debunked. And the Panthers don't need to run the ball heavy. They just need to run the ball effectively when they do, whether it's out of the Pistol, Shotgun (their Read Option last two seasons), or under center. When fans complain about the run game, no one is saying (at least not me), that they should turn into a run team. No, they just want the Panthers to run the ball more effectively when they do, so you can effectively play action off of it.

Secondly, Cam is a very bright young QB. No he's not Drew Brees or Tom Brady. However, they weren't what Cam is now during their first two years. So I don't know why you would even compare him to DA in that way. Remember, he's entering his third year, with only 1 yr of major college ball, and look what he's already achieved, especially with the responsibility he's had (including a bad/revolving offensive line all of last year). And he wants to get better and should!

Note: Cam rarely threw to wide open WR's last year (down field or in the end zone), which is a major indictment to Chud's play calling. How many times did you seen RG3, Kaepernick, Russel Wilson or even Luck and any other NFL QB's, individually throw to wide open receivers, last year?? Uhm...Plenty! LOL.

Lastly, I wouldn't be surprised at all, if the Panthers offense is even better next year. That of course, has a lot to do with, if Shula becomes a competent coordinator and play caller. But as long as Cam is there, that's already a good start/building block. We'll see?

PS: Panthers offensive DVOA was about 5, with most of the major Analytic Football sites. Panthers offensive problems (besides Chud), had more to do with possessions, and not having the ball enough.

PS2: Cam did NOT accumulate a lot of yards during GARBAGE TIME. Are you really a Panther fan? Did you actually watch the games? That's one of the reasons, Cam didn't have more yards (or fell 150 short of repeating 4000), cause the Panthers were usually in tight games. And anytime they actually went ahead more than 14 pts (no matter when), Rivera pulled the air out the ball.

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When it comes to making a football organization work the right way, in my opinion (and this is just MY opinion)...

Gettleman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gantt

JMHMFO.

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[quote name='Stroupe-a-loop' timestamp='1357922883' post='2090620']
From his last couple posts slamming managment and the team, I'm guessin Gannt is carrying around a wee bit of anger from the whole "being assigned to cover Winthrop University" thing.
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lol

You think?

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Unfortunately Gantt is spot on here.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1359322404' post='2116240']
Unfortunately Gantt is spot on here.
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Yeah, I'm sure Gantt's right and Gettleman doesn't have a clue about what he's doing.

Damn, I wonder why Gantt's not making huge money running and NFL team?

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Rivera better get his stuff together....

and please STOP BRINGING IN CHARGERS.

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[quote name='tiger7_88' timestamp='1359322959' post='2116244']

Yeah, I'm sure Gantt's right and Gettleman doesn't have a clue about what he's doing.
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You didn't read the article very well.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1359322404' post='2116240']
Unfortunately Gantt is spot on here.
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Not seeing how, we don't have to implement a new system. And we will be using our RB's a lot more.....that sounds like an upgrade.

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[quote name='jtgreensboro' timestamp='1359324607' post='2116258']
Not seeing how, we don't have to implement a new system. And we will be using our RB's a lot more.....that sounds like an upgrade.
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Shula does not have the capacity to run Chud's offense. It will be a new system.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1359325170' post='2116265']


Shula does not have the capacity to run Chud's offense. It will be a new system.
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Well, I am pretty sure he grasped it the past 2 season as he instructed Cam through it....

But I agree, Shula will run his own poo.

However, like Chud, Mike Shannahan, etc...another middle of the road coach will be viewed as as creative....thanks to his athletic beast of a QB. Shula will give Cam his read looks and chances to make plays.

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..only hope we have next year on offense is to let Shula call 2 plays and let Cam call a play every first down series...Cam should be getting a clue by now as to what should work to move the chains...

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1359325675' post='2116268']


Well, I am pretty sure he grasped it the past 2 season as he instructed Cam
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There is much more to an offense than just what the QB is doing.

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