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"Hey Mr Richardson....no backsies."

There is no continuity on this team. There is no momentum going into next year.

It irritates me to no end that Jerry "Al Davis" RIchardson made the call on Rivera before the GM was hired. Cheap Ass

Shula is an unknown.

Rivera has a built in excuse for 2013 already.

Bring in Gruden.
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i agree. it's a defacto lame duck coach/season. its the year before the strike all over again.

minus the strike.

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Rivera is a dead man walking - I think we will be lucky to go 8-8 next year

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JR made yet another mistake.

this thing is snowballing.

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Lord, can we wait until we get another OC before killing ourselves?
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I do wonder if Rivera would have been retained if we had known the OC (and thus most of the offensive staff) would be departing with him.

Although I think so - you have to think that Richardson also spent the beginning of the season going "what in the serious fug Chud?"

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Mr Richardson is infallible and we should be thanking him constantly for running a profitable business.
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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1357914415' post='2090252']
Lord, can we wait until we get another OC before killing ourselves?
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Hey come here for 1 season...if we don't turn it around you'll pry be fired along with everyone else

Thats sure to make the suitors line up
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[quote name='Panthro' timestamp='1357914614' post='2090267']
Hey come here for 1 season...if we don't turn it around you'll pry be fired along with everyone else

Thats sure to make the suitors line up
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the OC job here has 'temp" written all over it.

we'll find some desperate person. smart people will stay away.

norv going to cleveland was an easy decision. come to carolina for what could be just one year or go to cleveland and get two years.

take the money and work with your son.

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This is a disaster. We've basically just thrown away the first three years of our once-in-a-lifetime gift of a franchise QB.
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[quote name='Keith Moons Liver' timestamp='1357914876' post='2090275']
This is a disaster. We've basically just thrown away the first three years of our once-in-a-lifetime gift of a franchise QB.
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this is it right here.

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The one thing I am interested in knowing is how much Rivera knew or if he was prepared for something like this to happen.

Gettleman is signed being told we have a staff in place for next season...and then, the guy who runs and created our offense leaves. You've gotta think things are feeling uncomfortable already for him and now Rivera is going to either just promote Shula (yay?) or scramble to find a 1 year temp.

ugh

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Yes, it seems like we've been screwed once again. Hard to believe that this wasn't foreseen. Who wants a more-than-likely temporary OC position other than someone who is inexperienced or who had their chance before and blew it and wants another one.

No top notch guys are gonna want to come here.

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[quote name='Keith Moons Liver' timestamp='1357914876' post='2090275']
This is a disaster. We've basically just thrown away the first three years of our once-in-a-lifetime gift of a franchise QB.
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Cam went through four offenses in four years, and thrived in all of them. Hell, his worst struggles came when he was under the same scheme two years in a row. He's not Alex Smith, the kid can learn with the best of them.

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[quote name='kahakai' timestamp='1357915301' post='2090293']
The one thing I am interested in knowing is how much Rivera knew or if he was prepared for something like this to happen.

Gettleman is signed being told we have a staff in place for next season...and then, the guy who runs and created our offense leaves. You've gotta think things are feeling uncomfortable already for him and now Rivera is going to either just promote Shula (yay?) or scramble to find a 1 year temp.

ugh
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he's turned being in over his head as an HC into an artform.

it's what i expect.

of course "it's a process".

meh.....

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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1357915462' post='2090301']
Cam went through four offenses in four years, and thrived in all of them. Hell, his worst struggles came when he was under the same scheme two years in a row. He's not Alex Smith, the kid can learn with the best of them.
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Yeah but I'm ready for him to go to the next level.

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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1357915462' post='2090301']
Cam went through four offenses in four years, and thrived in all of them. Hell, his worst struggles came when he was under the same scheme two years in a row. He's not Alex Smith, the kid can learn with the best of them.
[/quote]yeah, let's just keep doing this.

winning formula.

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[quote name='Panthro' timestamp='1357915570' post='2090305']
Yeah but I'm ready for him to go to the next level.
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you know i think that fiery prophet just hinted that cam is better off with no continuity.

it's amazing the spinning that is going on.
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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357915657' post='2090310']

you know i think that fiery prophet just hinted that cam is better off with no continuity.

it's amazing the spinning that is going on.
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I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)
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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1357915742' post='2090314']


I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)
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I'm not worried about how Cam will perform... but the offense as a whole has to all be on the same page. Whoever we get, best thing they can do is let Cam be Cam... don't try to force him into some system and nitpick his mechanics. Let him play.
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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1357915742' post='2090314']
I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)
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just because you can handle it doesn't mean you should or that it's good for you or that it's something you want to continue doing.

this is a bad thing, esp. since there's a high likelihood that he'll have to get used to another OC and coaching staff after the '13 season.

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1357915819' post='2090316']
I'm not worried about how Cam will perform... but the offense as a whole has to all be on the same page. Whoever we get, best thing they can do is let Cam be Cam... don't try to force him into some system and nitpick his mechanics. Let him play.
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yep. it's not just cam. it's the whole offense.

they all have to get used to another OC.

this thing is getting so messy i expect to hear smitty say he's hanging up his cleats.

i mean why stay with this clusterf*ck of an organization?

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we better hire somebody that we're interested in promoting next year.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1357915557' post='2090304']
he's turned being in over his head as an HC into an artform.

it's what i expect.

of course "it's a process".

meh.....
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totally haha

I'm not in complete doom and gloom mode but this feels like very murky waters and makes me really wish we would have just pulled the trigger for a new HC. Since the end of the season, it seemed like this was all a strategy to use another JR safety net by retaining him and now half of the net is gone and its the most important part.

Shula is the safe route, so I see our safe franchise doing this. meh. we'll see

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Cam and co. lead us to a top 5 offense working with Chris Weinke during the lockout offseason. I think we will be just fine with whomever we bring in. The sky is not falling.
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