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#16 Panthro

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Cam went through four offenses in four years, and thrived in all of them. Hell, his worst struggles came when he was under the same scheme two years in a row. He's not Alex Smith, the kid can learn with the best of them.

Yeah but I'm ready for him to go to the next level.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Cam went through four offenses in four years, and thrived in all of them. Hell, his worst struggles came when he was under the same scheme two years in a row. He's not Alex Smith, the kid can learn with the best of them.

yeah, let's just keep doing this.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

Yeah but I'm ready for him to go to the next level.

you know i think that fiery prophet just hinted that cam is better off with no continuity.

it's amazing the spinning that is going on.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:49 AM

you know i think that fiery prophet just hinted that cam is better off with no continuity.

it's amazing the spinning that is going on.


I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)


I'm not worried about how Cam will perform... but the offense as a whole has to all be on the same page. Whoever we get, best thing they can do is let Cam be Cam... don't try to force him into some system and nitpick his mechanics. Let him play.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

I'm simply stating that Cam's not an idiot, he can absorb any changes made to the offense (which I don't think will be nearly as wide-ranging as the panic-meisters imagine it will be.)

just because you can handle it doesn't mean you should or that it's good for you or that it's something you want to continue doing.

this is a bad thing, esp. since there's a high likelihood that he'll have to get used to another OC and coaching staff after the '13 season.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

I'm not worried about how Cam will perform... but the offense as a whole has to all be on the same page. Whoever we get, best thing they can do is let Cam be Cam... don't try to force him into some system and nitpick his mechanics. Let him play.

yep. it's not just cam. it's the whole offense.

they all have to get used to another OC.

this thing is getting so messy i expect to hear smitty say he's hanging up his cleats.

i mean why stay with this clusterf*ck of an organization?

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

we better hire somebody that we're interested in promoting next year.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

he's turned being in over his head as an HC into an artform.

it's what i expect.

of course "it's a process".

meh.....


totally haha

I'm not in complete doom and gloom mode but this feels like very murky waters and makes me really wish we would have just pulled the trigger for a new HC. Since the end of the season, it seemed like this was all a strategy to use another JR safety net by retaining him and now half of the net is gone and its the most important part.

Shula is the safe route, so I see our safe franchise doing this. meh. we'll see

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:59 AM

Cam and co. lead us to a top 5 offense working with Chris Weinke during the lockout offseason. I think we will be just fine with whomever we bring in. The sky is not falling.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

the other hard part is geting buy in from the guys, knowing this could be a one and done for the coaches.

its like the coaches are consultants on contract. they have input on day to day stuff but everybody in the break room is like pfft. whatev

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

we should have pulled the trigger.

it would have been painful, but it would have leveled things out.

JR made a mistake by not letting hurney go when he let fox go. he screwed up again by putting things out of balance again.

one step forward, one step back. that's our panthers.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:04 AM

What's the likelihood that JR turns the table back on Rivera and lets him go due to the loss of Chud? He could easily use the "continuity" angle as to why he fires Rivera and just goes after a new HC and Staff... would make sense if (big 'if') it were to happen

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:08 AM

I'm not worried about how Cam will perform... but the offense as a whole has to all be on the same page. Whoever we get, best thing they can do is let Cam be Cam... don't try to force him into some system and nitpick his mechanics. Let him play.


The offense as a whole struggled because everything had to be run through Cam. If we are serious about letting him develop into a truly elite quarterback he can't do everything, and his mechanics have to improve. I don't ever want to take away Cam's ability to break off long runs, and the read option should stay as a wrinkle, but if he's going to take the next step it's going to be throwing the ball, utilizing his running backs to open up play action, and doing the things expected of a pass-first quarterback who just happens to be able to rush for 100 yards.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:09 AM

What's the likelihood that JR turns the table back on Rivera and lets him go due to the loss of Chud? He could easily use the "continuity" angle as to why he fires Rivera and just goes after a new HC and Staff... would make sense if (big 'if') it were to happen



This would be the best thing for the long-term future of this franchise. I'd be shocked if it happened.


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