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  1. Yes (29 votes [93.55%] - View)

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  3. Yes, but only minor issues or details that I don't consider to be a big deal (2 votes [6.45%] - View)

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#25 mmmbeans

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:04 AM

well lets see.

- grew up in an arch-conservative religious fundamentalist southern baptist family that said stuff like "the gays should be dragged into the streets and shot" and "all democrats are traitors and should be executed as enemies of the state"

- hit high school as a hyper-nationalist convinced that all other countries suck and america is the best

- believed interracial marriage was wrong because the bible says stuff about being unequally yoked and i was pissed that my sister was dating one of them there mexicans

- went into community college convinced i was going to expose the ultra-liberal ivory tower education DEMONcrats that are poisoning the waters of the education systems and kept a logbook to note the number of times the teacher mentioned communism in a positive way (in my sociology class lol)

- joined the marine corps officer program and went to quanitco, va for USMC office candidate school and passed ready to go out and kill some of them there a-rabs

- joined college republicans and became a core member and wrote blogs for the school using terminology like "towelheads" to describe terrorists

- convinced myself i was going to write a book on intelligent design as it relates to christian apologetics and proving evolution to be a fraud


then i started reading actual books and talking to actual people and traveling around the world exposing myself to new thoughts and new ideas and i've basically become pretty centrist in the process. i've lost a lot of friends along the way because i explore these sorts of topics openly now on platforms like facebook to compare and contrast various modes of thinking from various viewpoints and belief systems, but my openness to doing so on there as well as on here has led to understanding more fully the nuances of issues as presented by all sides of those issues (which often leads to a sort of paralysis where i don't know which way to go, but that's better than being ignorantly indignant, i suppose.)

so yeah i've changed quite a bit

Holy shiat man

#26 PhillyB

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

First, Philly B.
It looks like early in life, you could not think for yourself at all. You were like many people, me included, who grow up believing whatever stupidity comes out of their families with no regrets. This happens on the left and right.

Instead of standing up to your family and saying "you are wrong in your assumptions of what the bible teaches and in fact going against everything the bible teaches", you abandoned the whole thing. I can see that as a viable out for the hypocrisy you grew up in.
Not sure why someone of your intelligence however, did not see that there are liberals and conservatives and then there are fringe kooks on both ends. Abandoning or joining either side based on a hatred of the kooks might not be the best approach or at least one that would seem more deliberate in nature.


you're making a whole lot of massive assumptions here, including "abandoning the whole thing" and "not see[ing] that there are liberals and conservatives and then fringe kooks"

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:21 AM

Just an fyi. Most of us will see the world differently in 10 years. Part of the program.

#28 PhillyB

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:58 PM

Just an fyi. Most of us will see the world differently in 10 years. Part of the program.


deviation to the mean?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

Just an fyi. Most of us will see the world differently in 10 years. Part of the program.

Hopefully.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

you're making a whole lot of massive assumptions here, including "abandoning the whole thing" and "not see[ing] that there are liberals and conservatives and then fringe kooks"


Well, you are correct. I am probably twice your age and you and the rest of the early twenties guys will go many directions in your views. Agreed, that I made assumptions because I have traveled some of the roads you guys are on now. Not that we will end up the same places, obviously, but I could not say I knew anything until I passed 25 years old.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:28 PM

Not a whole lot, I don't think.

Pro Choice

Pro Gun

Get out of other nations business

Anti Tax

Anti government groth

Pro gay marriage

Need a few less prisons and a lot less laws

Pretty much, just stay out of my bedroom and my wallet.

#32 rodeo

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

I reevaluate the minutia of my views pretty much every day. If you ask me about something and then the same thing a week later I'll probably have something different about how I think about it.

The major touchstone issues, not really. I've been pretty much consistent on those since I developed any political views at all, which wasn't really until college (and it wasn't a case of liberal elite education brainwashing, i actually had an extremist conservative government teacher who couldn't go 1 class aTed Kennedy joke).

I had some kind of deflector shield growing up to not be influenced by being born and raised in Biloxi in a military family. My mom was/is an overt racist and my dad is a staunch air force guy. We went to church until probably about middle school. I managed to sit through all of that, the God talk and the 'pinko' talk, and my 8 year old brain would just vaguely be like 'this doesn't feel like something I want to value.' I formed my views pretty independently of my environment.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I reevaluate the minutia of my views pretty much every day. If you ask me about something and then the same thing a week later I'll probably have something different about how I think about it.


You do understand that this exact same thing goes for me too, right? Kinda screws up your ammunition you've been using against me here recently. Ive only been trying to say this exact same thing in that alex jones thread.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

Not a whole lot, I don't think.

Pro Choice

Pro Gun

Get out of other nations business

Anti Tax

Anti government groth

Pro gay marriage

Need a few less prisons and a lot less laws

Pretty much, just stay out of my bedroom and my wallet.


100% agree with every single point you posted.

#35 rodeo

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

You do understand that this exact same thing goes for me too, right? Kinda screws up your ammunition you've been using against me here recently. Ive only been trying to say this exact same thing in that alex jones thread.

If you do then that's great. But the sources you use to reevaluate with are very important too.

#36 PhillyB

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

I reevaluate the minutia of my views pretty much every day. If you ask me about something and then the same thing a week later I'll probably have something different about how I think about it.


same