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#25 rayzor

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:21 PM

Hershey is a nice place to relax. close enough to the big cities but also near the Poconos.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

I still think someone in the organization, for whatever reason, put the writers on to the idea that Beane was a legit candidate. Maybe not JR or someone close to the actual search, but still someone within the organization. I don't think any writer would come up with that notion (that a totally unqualified guy was a legit candidate) on their own. Someone steered them that way.

As to Ladypanther's comments about JR...Jerry has been his own worst enemy when it comes to PR. He's the guy that let the world know he gave orders to gut the roster in prep for the lockout. He's the guy that admitted keeping keeping Fox longer than he wanted to because he didn't want to pay 2 staffs. He was one of the hardline guys in both the player lockout and the lockout of officials. It wasn't writers or fans that invented the notion that JR was cheap, it was the words out of his very mouth that created that impression.

I am just glad JR did the right thing and hired Accorsi and had the good judgement to trust his recommendations.


I belive that JR really thought he was positioning the team for success. I like the GM hire now. Agree Accorsi was a very good decision. Both positive signs. Maybe JR islearning from his mistakes too.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:44 AM

I just don't see what the point is here. Was it to point out the ignorance of reporters and fans who think they know it all?

Anyway, I don't see the relevance in regards to J.R. being cheap. I don't think J-Rich is cheap, per se, but by his own admission he is beholden to the stockholders, so there must be an element of frugality, or at least a measure of prudence or shrewdness in the manner that he carries out his business dealings. This doesn't make him cheap or evil, but, where the problem comes in is a matter of philosophy on what makes a successful NFL franchise. As some analysts as I have listened to have stated, you basically have to be an idiot to screw up an NFL franchise when it comes to making money. It is a cash cow. At the root of an NFL franchise's success, IMO, is putting out a good product on the field no matter what the initial costs are, because once it is evident that there is caring, concern and energy coming from the field and the FO, the same will emanate into the fan-base; hence, sales will multiply exponentially.

IMO, J-Rich got a little too cute with the money, taking fans for granted, when he basically gutted the team of veteran leadership before the impending NFL lockout (walkout or whatever you want to call it) that set the initial tone for the last CBA. In my mind, J-Rich let the fans know then (in so many words) that he was more beholden to the stockholders than the fan-base, right or wrong. To me, the two aren't really mutually exclusive, and well-run teams are evidence of that fact. Now, like I said, I don't believe J-Rich is cheap or evil, but I would like him to always be cognizant of the fact that it would take a dunderhead to fug up an NFL franchise, so always strive to put a first class product on the field, every year, regardless of the situation, and regardless if you have to spend a little more than you wanted because, in the end, the money will always come.

In regards to the dollars, I don't believe J-Rich has ever hired a GM, coach, or anybody in the FO with money being the top priority.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

why such big letters?


Is that about my post? Asking becasue I do not see any post with latge letters but ther eis some weird separation on my firrst post here. Not sure what happened there.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

I'm pleased to hear it. I did not expect Beane to be excluded in any way. Maybe the Panthers are on the road to great things. (Knowing our luck though, we'll be ready to dominate the NFL, JR will die, and the team will move. :P)

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

The "point" is to highlight that some of the media coverage of us has been inaccurate.

Some folks think it's because of deliberate misinformation. Possible. My take though? It's disinterest / apathy / laziness on the part of some of the journalists.

Said elsewhere, when you've got someone who apparently hasn't even bothered to read our new GMs bio (evidenced by his telling a chat patron that Gettleman had never worked as a college scout and not even spelling his name right in the initial article) to me that's a clear indicator that when it comes to covering our team, this guy just isn't putting in that much effort.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:43 PM

The "point" is to highlight that some of the media coverage of us has been inaccurate.

Some folks think it's because of deliberate misinformation. Possible. My take though? It's disinterest / apathy / laziness on the part of some of the journalists.

Said elsewhere, when you've got someone who apparently hasn't even bothered to read our new GMs bio (evidenced by his telling a chat patron that Gettleman had never worked as a college scout and not even spelling his name right in the initial article) to me that's a clear indicator that when it comes to covering our team, this guy just isn't putting in that much effort.


OK, that's a little more understandable, and the point is well taken. Like so many times, a thread has morphed into another discussion (which isn't necessarily bad, just the nature of the beast).

We all knew that national writers don't necessarily know poo about the Panthers, and their "coverage", or lack thereof, is evidence of that fact. When it's closer to home, that's another thing. Makes me wonder if perhaps the organization has pulled back on offering up information due to all the negativity as of late. Perhaps this is just the nature of the beast as well. Even the local guys are throwing stuff out there to see if it has some wings, because it's all they got.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

Pat y is the worst ever

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

You know, another possible source for the Beane stuff may have been Marty. Yas and Person perhaps couldn't get any info out of the organization, so they may have called up good ole Marty to get his opinion. Yeah, these guys are maybe lazy, but they got an otherwise implausible Beane name from somewhere.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

Is that about my post? Asking becasue I do not see any post with latge letters but ther eis some weird separation on my firrst post here. Not sure what happened there.

yeah, they showed up huge on my screen. didn't know if it was for emphasis or not which would be weird coming from you. you don't seem like a shouter.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

Acorisi invites Beane to his house about an important role.

Beane tells the family, buys a new boat..gets a new suit for the press conference as his lifelong dream has come true.

Beans arrives at the house.

Acorisi is having a dinner party and asks Beane if he minds bringing out the dinner with Gettleman and Ross... Beane politely smiles and puts on the apron and graciously delivers the fine meal while holding back his quivering lip.

Hearing the laughter of a muffled conversation while standing in the kitchen Beane looks at his reflection on the stainless steel fridge and spits water at his dellusional blurred image.

He is a broken man as they announce Gettleman as the new GM...JR hands Beane his empty plate.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

Acorisi invites Beane to his house about an important role.

Beane tells the family, buys a new boat..gets a new suit for the press conference as his lifelong dream has come true.

Beans arrives at the house.

Acorisi is having a dinner party and asks Beane if he minds bringing out the dinner with Gettleman and Ross... Beane politely smiles and puts on the apron and graciously delivers the fine meal while holding back his quivering lip.

Hearing the laughter of a muffled conversation while standing in the kitchen Beane looks at his reflection on the stainless steel fridge and spits water at his dellusional blurred image.

He is a broken man as they announce Gettleman as the new GM...JR hands Beane his empty plate.


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