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#31 thennek

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

Without JR, the Carolinas would probably never have had an NFL team. I remember the days before the Panthers were here....we had no home team and everyone just followed their favorite team (Redskins, Cowboys, Steelers, Bears or whoever). I don't want to go back to that. It's a lot better having a home team...Just imagine how you would feel if there is no longer an NFL team in the Carolinas. What team would you follow?

Yes, I am disappointed that the Panthers are not winning but I appreciate that we have a 'home team'. I am also confident that now the Panthers finally have a franchise QB that they will start winning. Nobody can consistently win in the NFL without a franchise QB. The Patriots were not a dynasty until they had Brady. The Colts did not win until they had Manning. The Packers did not win until they had Favre and Rodgers. And Cowboys have not consistenly won since they lost Aikman, and the Bills & Dolphins have not won since they lost Kelly & Marino. The teams that never win (Chiefs, Raiders, Browns, Jags, Rams, and etc.....they don't have a franchise QB. As much as we all loved Jake, he was not a franchise QB and never was Beuerlein. Finding a franchise QB is not easy......but when you find one it makes a huge difference. The Panthers are on the right track, and they will start winning.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

This thread seems familiar somehow, just can't put my thumb on it.....

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

This thread seems familiar somehow, just can't put my thumb on it.....

Yep, soon somebody will say he started Hardee's and owns Bojangles :cool:
http://www.carolinah...13/page__st__30

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

Yep, soon somebody will say he started Hardee's and owns Bojangles :cool:
http://www.carolinah...13/page__st__30

not the tread I'm talking about

#35 King Taharqa

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

Why so many JR apologists?

Because we know deep down he's a horrible owner with the losses to back it up?

JR made his own bed for 17 seasons, he has to sleep in it. I suppose it wont be until he leaves this earth that people will feel comfortable enough to speak on how bad a owner he is. I'm sure he's a pleasant guy but NFL owner he's at the bottom of the food chain.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:39 AM

Mr. Richardson gets criticism from myself sometimes, but keep this in perspective: without him there is no NFL team here. No panthers. Most of you would be Steeler or Cowboy fans. I think most of you are deep down anyway.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

Mr. Richardson gets criticism from myself sometimes, but keep this in perspective: without him there is no NFL team here. No panthers. Most of you would be Steeler or Cowboy fans. I think most of you are deep down anyway.


Under his leadership we still dont have an NFL team. Sad the best thing we can say about him is "well he got us a team!". Cant even call him a winner.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

Yo KT if u think the Panthers are bad you should talk to a few Browns fans

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:43 AM

What?? That is just ridiculous...I'm really trying not to point out your ridiculous troll posts but that just takes the cake. Please explain this because I am truly baffled.

Were you seriously even around before his heart transplant?


I thought Kurb and Zod clearly said don't ever quote each other anymore. Please don't.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

Why so many JR apologists?

Because we know deep down he's a horrible owner with the losses to back it up?

JR made his own bed for 17 seasons, he has to sleep in it. I suppose it wont be until he leaves this earth that people will feel comfortable enough to speak on how bad a owner he is. I'm sure he's a pleasant guy but NFL owner he's at the bottom of the food chain.

Bad Owner? bottum line of the food chain, this teams had more success in the last 10 years then 2/3 of the NFL, has he been perfect? nope but overal I'd rather have him.

Most of the JR haters only have feelings to back up their argument, if you want to look at it from a pure stat point of view we have been a top 1/3 of the league for a while now.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

Bad Owner? bottum line of the food chain, this teams had more success in the last 10 years then 2/3 of the NFL, has he been perfect? nope but overal I'd rather have him.

Most of the JR haters only have feelings to back up their argument, if you want to look at it from a pure stat point of view we have been a top 1/3 of the league for a while now.


I don't "hate" JR, so don't put me into that box, but I have to know...what obscure stat are you looking at that puts us in the top third of teams for the last 10 years?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

Yo KT if u think the Panthers are bad you should talk to a few Browns fans


well the Browns are good starters

also see

Lions
Jags
Bengals - if you've ever heard some of the stories out there about the bengals ownership you would just shake your head
Raiders - so bad they are a punch line


Teams that the Panthers have had more success then over the last 10 years

Teams I name below are the ones that have been better over the last year it ended up easier naming the ones that have been better then the ones that haven't, the team count though are the teams the Panthers have been better then

The AFC west outside of the Chargers - 3 teams
AFC east outside of the Patriots - 3 teams - can make an argument for Jets but only 2 good seasons versus Panthers 3
AFC 1/2 AFC north - 2 teams - Ravens and Steelers are better overall
AFC south outside of the Colts - 3 teams

NFC East 1/2 - Giants and Eagles have been better, Cowboys and Redskins worse - 2 teams
NFC North, Packers are better and Bears area push/maybe slightly better - 2 teams
NFC South, Saints - this is just over the last 10 years so no SB for Tampa - 2 teams
NFC west - Seattle and Maybe 49'ers - 2 teams

So the Panthers just at a quick look have been better then 19 out of the other 31 teams in the NFL over the last 10 years.

Hardly the bottum feeder that many over emotional cry baby fans try and make us out to be.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

I don't "hate" JR, so don't put me into that box, but I have to know...what obscure stat are you looking at that puts us in the top third of teams for the last 10 years?

look at my last post,

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

I want a team that puts some winning seasons together not 7-9 or 8-8 every year. That is JR's responsibility. He has made bad decisions on how he runs the team and we the fans suffer by sitting through mediocrity while spending 2k a year on tickets and drinking $7.25 miller lites.

JR seems like a great man who isn't delivering the goods.

If it's not JR's fault then tell me who to criticize.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

I thought Kurb and Zod clearly said don't ever quote each other anymore. Please don't.


Be a man chuck, im asking you an honest question. Don't go running to tell the principal on me because I confronted you about saying something dumb. I wanna know if you are seriously trying to troll or if your opinion is just that ridiculous. It's absolutely mind boggling.


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