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#25 Gabeking

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

some of the huddlers confuse me. they downplay what other teams/coaches/owners have done. including winning and somehow defend what goes on in Carolina.
isn't the playoffs and winning in the playoffs the ultimate goal of an NFL franchise? am i missing something? is there a secret society where mediocrity is ok and acceptable?
tell me because currently my credit score isn't what it use to be and i could go apply for a REFI and get a killer rate.


And some people here do the exact opposite as well.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

yeah I hate it when people are right about stuff

It's not the act of being right, its that people get so caught up in proving others wrong and making fun of them when they do with snarky little remarks. I just find it rather funny.

#27 SZ James (banned)

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

some of the huddlers confuse me. they downplay what other teams/coaches/owners have done. including winning and somehow defend what goes on in Carolina.
isn't the playoffs and winning in the playoffs the ultimate goal of an NFL franchise? am i missing something?


confirmation bias gets out of control when you mix it with fan culture

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:51 PM

Just heard on TV that before the Pats current ownership, they had only hosted one playoff game.

What a difference.



I wonder if the same thing would work for this message board.

How disingenuous can you get? You're just stirring the pot by saying that indicating that if the Panthers had different ownership maybe our long history of sucking the way the Patriots did would be over. And then when people swallow it hook, line and sinker you come back with the proverbial Urkel,"What did I do".

I went for it too so great job driving traffic.

If on the off chance you randomly posted such non Panther news at the same time people are hating on the Panthers ownership and dumping on Jerry left and right then by all means I apologize.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:22 PM

fan01- here is the deal slick. the Panthers as a franchise has hit critical mass. the bloom is off the rose that we have a NFL franchise and yes, we are grateful Jerry Richardson help bring a team here. keep in mind the concept of the PSL, a brainchild of a Charlottean, also helped fund the team. so the buy in and voice of those crying out for a winner are strong.

this isn't the local dry cleaner where they keep losing my Arrow shirt with ring around the collar or my Hugo Boss blazer. i can always walk across the street.

its been 5 years now since the last playoff game. at some point, the in between waiting period starts to add up like a broken Tetris game.
we don't want to settle for being so so. we don't want to be Cleveland or Buffalo south. Or Oakland East.

until we get invited to play golf or the executive board room of the team, our only voices are on a message board, a radio call in show or the loudest one of all. Our wallets. if you think the voices are stinging now, just wait when they began to scream with their wallets. the slow erosion until everything becomes a shell of itself.

the criticism isn't a personal indictment on JR, rather, a not so subtle way of keeping his feet to the fire.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:25 PM

I just think the large group of people that think every playoff franchise is perfect and the Panthers are the worst run franchise in the league are full of poo. Out of 12 playoff franchises I would only describe 5 as having a recent tradition of winning. Success in the NFL is hard to come by and short lived. To sit here and say we have the worst owner in the league because we haven't made the playoffs in 4 years is bit rediculous. Buffalo fans laugh at you, they haven't made the post season in 13 seasons. Can you imagine that? Having childrent grow into teenagers and maybe young adults without seeing their favorite team make the playoffs?

We have problems and lots of them. But every post I make I try to pull the wackos off the ledge and back into reality. We aren't very good but we aren't the laughing stock of the league either. It could be worse. We want it to be better.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

Most people confuse us for the Jaguars.

I think that's a fair assessment.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

fan01- here is the deal slick. the Panthers as a franchise has hit critical mass. the bloom is off the rose that we have a NFL franchise and yes, we are grateful Jerry Richardson help bring a team here. keep in mind the concept of the PSL, a brainchild of a Charlottean, also helped fund the team. so the buy in and voice of those crying out for a winner are strong.

this isn't the local dry cleaner where they keep losing my Arrow shirt with ring around the collar or my Hugo Boss blazer. i can always walk across the street.

its been 5 years now since the last playoff game. at some point, the in between waiting period starts to add up like a broken Tetris game.
we don't want to settle for being so so. we don't want to be Cleveland or Buffalo south. Or Oakland East.

until we get invited to play golf or the executive board room of the team, our only voices are on a message board, a radio call in show or the loudest one of all. Our wallets. if you think the voices are stinging now, just wait when they began to scream with their wallets. the slow erosion until everything becomes a shell of itself.

the criticism isn't a personal indictment on JR, rather, a not so subtle way of keeping his feet to the fire.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

it's too bad pstall that your point won't get across because we have too many fans that are stuck in 93 mode and have accepted losing. that was part of the point in my thread last week about our infatuation with second place,

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

pstall analogies <3

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

Because he's such a great owner right now?

Obviously JR has had his faults, letting Hurney overstay his welcome is probably his major fault. I agree, on that note.

But how many Owners would have given TD another chance to play football after his third ACL tear?

How many Owners would have just shipped Steve Smith away instead of guiding him to be a better man and a player?

How many Owners would have went to the Hospital and provided a private jet for Olsen to get consultation for his unborn child?

I believe JR's feelings have gotten in the way of his decisions, but the players absolutely love him and speak highly of him.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

Obviously JR has had his faults, letting Hurney overstay his welcome is probably his major fault. I agree, on that note.

But how many Owners would have given TD another chance to play football after his third ACL tear?

How many Owners would have just shipped Steve Smith away instead of guiding him to be a better man and a player?

How many Owners would have went to the Hospital and provided a private jet for Olsen to get consultation for his unborn child?

I believe JR's feelings have gotten in the way of his decisions, but the players absolutely love him and speak highly of him.

After reading this post, JR is the biggest team player we have. :startle: