All those teams that are deep in the playoffs have one thing in common: MONSTER OFFENSIVE LINE. You can't win without it. You can't be a one man wrecking crew in the playoffs. I see Wilson, Kaapernick use the run as the last option. If you think you can win by hiding the OL behind some gimmick read option you might win a game or two but you gonna burn out your star QB out.
As was noted with the 49ers OL, they have 3 first round pick on that line. Not some patch up scheme. Just bulldozers. The same for all the 4 teams left. I watched Cam and Griffin ran all over the place like it's some novelty act. That $hit look cute for a while then it gets boring when you're not winning(or getting your knee reconstructed).
Brady is a sitting duck in the pocket. It's amazing how someone can be so athletically challenged but he doesn't get touch because of the OL. Just because Cam is athletic doesn't mean he doesn't need the same protection. What Cam bring to the table, like Kaepernick, should be dessert NOT the full course. The Redskins are learning that lesson the hard way. They gave up 3 first round pick for a guy but forgot to protect him thinking they can just wing it.
If the 49ers play NE in the superbowl the difference is gonna be Kaep's mobility since everything else offset each other. Both team have WRs, great OL, good defenses, etc. The determining factor is gonna be Brady's inability to pick up 1st downs when no one is open.
With the new mobile QBs we'll start noticing even more lazy coaches(like Rivera), GMs, or even owners. You know, those organizations that think all they need is a superstar QB and wait for the sportscenter highlights every weekend, sale more tickets but never win a damn thing. How does a coach or GM not know that besides the QB position the OL is the most important is beyond me.
I know Cam is competitive and love winning, if this organization doesn't get this OL straight, hopefullly Cam is smart enough to bail out before his first knee reconstructive surgery. I would hate to watch a talent like Cam get carted of the field trying to pick up a 1st down to save Rivera's job every year.
WE (K)NEED 1st ROUND TALENT ON OUR O LINE. period
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:59 PM
(k)need?
Anyway...yes...fill that RG spot with Warmack. That will help Bell in the process at RT.
Anyway...yes...fill that RG spot with Warmack. That will help Bell in the process at RT.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:00 PM
I wasn't happy when I heard that Lewan and Matthews were going back to school. Joeckel will be long gone by 14 and likely Fisher as well. That leaves Warmack at G (maybe) and Jonathan Cooper available at our pick. I'd like Warmack because he will be the best player available that fills an immediate need but I wouldn't be all that surprised to see us pass on him in favor of a DT and address the offensive line in round 2. In the second I'd be happy with Dallas Thomas, Justin Pugh, Barrett Jones, Fluker, or Oday Aboushi.
The combine will solidify where a lot of prospects will land.
The combine will solidify where a lot of prospects will land.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:04 PM
I approve this message.
Watching these games I truly, fully realized how important it is
That was meant toward RG3's knee being fuged from running too much
Watching these games I truly, fully realized how important it is
(k)need?
That was meant toward RG3's knee being fuged from running too much
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:06 PM
Aboshi feet doesnt appear to be fast enough for me. Would much rather have Fluker.
Give me Warmack in the 1st and Fluker in the 2nd and we will have seriously upgraded our oline.
my only issue with that is missing out on Rogers or Hopkins. but then again..... ol > wr
Give me Warmack in the 1st and Fluker in the 2nd and we will have seriously upgraded our oline.
my only issue with that is missing out on Rogers or Hopkins. but then again..... ol > wr
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:07 PM
That was meant toward RG3's knee being fuged from running too much
Ah, thanks awfully.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:09 PM
Wouldn't mind hitting up OL in rounds 1 and 2. We have to get tougher there, Byron Bell, while being a decent lineman struggles in the run game and RG has been a problem since Kedric Vincent (Camwaggoners say who dat?) Not saying that Bell is not starter material and could not be a starter, because I like him. Maybe Bell can battle Gross for the other tackle spot but we have to improve with a stud of a G and OT in my opinion to turn the corner. Also it's not easy to have a boss oline, backfield, dline, secondary, wr, qb etc. So don't pretend like coaches and GM's don't think it is important.....pretty fuging sure they do.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:09 PM
Aboshi feet doesnt appear to be fast enough for me. Would much rather have Fluker.
Give me Warmack in the 1st and Fluker in the 2nd and we will have seriously upgraded our oline.
my only issue with that is missing out on Rogers or Hopkins. but then again..... ol > wr
Wouldn't be opposed to a Warmack/ Fluker combo but I just can't see our GM and scouting department going that route with so many other glaring holes on this team (S/CB/DT/WR).
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:10 PM
Are you for serious????? You are going to question Aboushi's foot speed and then say Fluker is a better option. Fluker looks like he has damn cinderblocks strapped to his feet when he is against a speed rusher.Aboshi feet doesnt appear to be fast enough for me. Would much rather have Fluker.
Give me Warmack in the 1st and Fluker in the 2nd and we will have seriously upgraded our oline.
my only issue with that is missing out on Rogers or Hopkins. but then again..... ol > wr
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:11 PM
i want the best oline for cam period. running and pass protection.
warmak & fluker
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fisher & thomas (if by gods grace fisher is still on the board)
warmak & fluker
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fisher & thomas (if by gods grace fisher is still on the board)
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:12 PM
I like that Cam and Warmack played together in high school as well.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:21 PM
Don't get your heart set on players this early, they may well be gone early or end up sucking at the combine.
But yes, o-line should be our top pick if someone good enough is available.
But yes, o-line should be our top pick if someone good enough is available.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:21 PM
I like Warmack and Fluker and would be elated for what that would do to our run game if we got both of them. The best protection for Cam is to have our all world backfield running through giant holes. Fluker is by far the best run blocker at tackle in the draft but needs a little work in pass pro....something that I could definitely live with.i want the best oline for cam period. running and pass protection.
warmak & fluker
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fisher & thomas (if by gods grace fisher is still on the board)
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:21 PM
Are you for serious????? You are going to question Aboushi's foot speed and then say Fluker is a better option. Fluker looks like he has damn cinderblocks strapped to his feet when he is against a speed rusher.
Just went back and watched some tape. Aboushi's foot speed is better than I thought, Although I like Fluker better as a RT than I like Aboushi as a LT.
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