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Wtf Is This Relationship We Have With The Browns?

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Ruff    3,836

Shurmur and Rivera worked together with the Eagles for five years.

Chris Tabor used to be Dave Toub's assistant in Chicago. Rivera looked at him last year but we wound up with Murphy instead and he wound up in Cleveland.

Most of the Browns current assistants were somewhere else prior to joining Shurmur's staff in 2011.

People act like these guys never coached anywhere but Cleveland :rolleyes:

I think he means more like, Jeff Davidson, Rip Scherer, Derek Anderson, etc. Not necessarily just the guys that are being mentioned now.

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Mr. Scot    35,020

I think he means more like, Jeff Davidson, Rip Scherer, Derek Anderson, etc. Not necessarily just the guys that are being mentioned now.

Anderson being here was a direct result of Chudzinski. Technically so were Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey, so we can't exactly say he was all bad.

(honestly the whole notion that you can't pull good people from bad teams is kind of silly)

Again, it's more perception than reality. The next guy with a Browns connection that the team hires will be the only one (unless more are hired).

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Mr. Scot    35,020

Mr. Scot, defender of all things Cleveland Browns.

Hardly. I think the Browns are terrible and probably will continue to be so unless Jimmy Haslam makes some pretty radical changes (which could happen, but I don't think he's off to a very good start).

What I'm arguing against is this goofball notion that just because someone was part of a bad organization, they themselves are automatically bad by association. Using that logic, Calvin Johnson must suck because he's part of the Lions. Likewise Joe Thomas since he plays for the Browns. And of course, Bill Cowher can't possibly be a good coach because he spent a load of his coaching career in (dun dun dun) Cleveland.

Most coaching prospects have been with multiple teams over the course of their careers; some bad, some good. You gotta be able to look at individual performance rather than just making assumptions based on where they come from.

Making that kind of assumption is just lazy analysis.

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Stroupe-a-loop    431

I'm not seeing a big connection. We are talking to Shurmur and the special teams coach. They've actually had good special teams over the years, so it's not like he's sucked at his job. The whole Chud and Anderson thing doesn't really make sense because they were both other places prior to coming here (SD and ARI). What else? Davidson a while ago? I'm not really seeing it.

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Stroupe-a-loop    431

What I'm arguing against is this goofball notion that just because someone was part of a bad organization, they themselves are automatically bad by association. Using that logic, Calvin Johnson must suck because he's part of the Lions. Likewise Joe Thomas since he plays for the Browns. And of course, Bill Cowher can't possibly be a good coach because he spent a load of his coaching career in (dun dun dun) Cleveland.

Bellichick failed in Cleveland. And he ended up being pretty good at the whole coaching football players thing.

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janosha    49

Western Carolina BBQ gives me the Carolina Browns. yea I said it.

Dillsboro BBQ had me running to el Baño durning my college years.

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TheRed    18,322

Hardly. I think the Browns are terrible and probably will continue to be so unless Jimmy Haslam makes some pretty radical changes (which could happen, but I don't think he's off to a very good start).

What I'm arguing against is this goofball notion that just because someone was part of a bad organization, they themselves are automatically bad by association. Using that logic, Calvin Johnson must suck because he's part of the Lions. Likewise Joe Thomas since he plays for the Browns. And of course, Bill Cowher can't possibly be a good coach because he spent a load of his coaching career in (dun dun dun) Cleveland.

Most coaching prospects have been with multiple teams over the course of their careers; some bad, some good. You gotta be able to look at individual performance rather than just making assumptions based on where they come from.

Making that kind of assumption is just lazy analysis.

Just ribbing you a bit.

I could care less where they coached, I want to see success in a body of work. Plain and simple, Shurmur sucks.

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Mr. Scot    35,020

Just ribbing you a bit.

I could care less where they coached, I want to see success in a body of work. Plain and simple, Shurmur sucks.

I don't want Shurmur either.

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