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[quote name='MadHatter' timestamp='1358277489' post='2098285']
It is funny how much hate is on here for Rivera.

If a few plays had broken our way....
1. if Cam had not fumbled at the end of the Atlanta game
2. If Smitty had not slipped resulting in a pick 6 in the Chicago game
3. if Cam had not short armed the pass against Seattle

This team would have been a 10 win team and in the playoffs....and no one would be calling for RR to have been fired.

This team is very close....and any coach can see that.
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And if the Olsen fumble had been called correctly our last game of the year, it was likely a 14 point swing. That would have left us at 6-10.

The point is, every close game typically comes down to just a couple of plays. They tend to get glossed over when you win, and magnified when you lose.

We were 7-9, no matter how you want to look at it.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1358291403' post='2098720']


And if the Olsen fumble had been called correctly our last game of the year, it was likely a 14 point swing. That would have left us at 6-10.

The point is, every close game typically comes down to just a couple of plays. They tend to get glossed over when you win, and magnified when you lose.

We were 7-9, no matter how you want to look at it.
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I understand your point and agree with you.

My point is that we are very close to a playoff team. We are not a team that had a lot of good luck happen to have our record.

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[quote name='TheMaulClaw' timestamp='1358275516' post='2098237']
You sound like you want Rivera to fail. It would be a great decision to come here if your confident your confident you can help the team win some games. That same pressure to win is everywhere. If your a competitive NFL OC why would you even think like that.
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your going to find quite a few on here wishing for RR to fail.....makes no sense.

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You could definitely understand why Norv and Toub decided to go elsewhere. It's playoffs or bust in Charlotte. No playoffs? you gotta do all this crap over again next year. Cleveland and KC both are going to have new regimes and that alone should buy them at least 2 years. Not to mention the expectations are pretty low for those two franchises.

You gotta think that Whisenhunt would love to coach here. But I don't think RIvera would bring him in. If the Panthers start out 0-3 next year....Rivera is canned and Whisenhunt is new HC. I'm surprised he doesn't have a job yet TBQH.

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Two things:

1) If they come in and do their job, there won't be any concern about security.

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2) Even if ( say Wisenhunt) comes in and has mild success and the team still fails to make the playoffs, whose to say that Gettleman won't look at Wisenhunt as Rivera's replacement.

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[quote name='bLACKpANTHER' timestamp='1358268073' post='2097903']
Hue Jackson
Norv Turner
Dave Toub
Ken Wisenhunt

[size=5]Why come to a place that is expecting a lot right out the gate and if you fall short- there is a good possibility you will be looking for work again next year?[/size]

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That's a very short-sighted way to look at it. All of those mentioned, minus Toub, have had head coaching experience in the NFL. Hell, Toub has interviewed multiple times for a head coaching gig himself. With Rivera on the hot seat, each of those coaches know that they would have a chance to step into that role next year, assuming they perform well.

I'm not saying they would coach to get a head coaching job (like Chud reportedly did) or if they would sabotage to get the chance to be a coach (like some think Garrett did in Dallas), but they know that if the players grow found of them, their offense works out well, Cam and Smitty both seem to like them, and Rivera still has trouble managing a game from a coaching perspective, there would be a chance to step into that role and be the coach.

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Unless a coordinator can't find a job elsewhere, he isn't coming to Carolina IMO. I agree, why should he? Why would anybody want to sign on as a coach with a staff that is tinkering on collapse?

I'm willing to bet that we sign from within and find even lower people outside to fill those other positions.

This is the Rivera system we are playing with, so it makes sense to keep it that way with Rivera's guys.

I bet the new GM is frustrated, not being able to run his show but he knew this when he signed on. Richardson wants to get his money out of Rivera, at the expensive of everybody else's future.

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Coaches have egos. They'd take the job just to prove that they can do it.

Love the negative crop around here.

Never gets old.

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*bump* just because of relevance
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[quote name='bLACKpANTHER' timestamp='1359134021' post='2114341']
*bump* just because of relevance
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unfortunately, good call.

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Not only is Rivera on the hot seat we are in salary cap hell meaning we are stuck letting guys go and not signing any to replace except in the draft.

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