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[SIGCHI222]

IMO, Gross, Beason, Gamble, DWill, Stewart and Rivera.

For Kraken...



today was a good day.

[k1lljoy_89]

It was. It was indeed.

[fieryprophet]

I don't know why Gross keeps showing up on these lists. We all spent the year watching our QB get killed in the pocket and bemoaning our offensive line, and now everyone wants to cut our most consistent and important player just because he's slightly worse than the Pro Bowler he usually is.

[panthers55]

I don't know why Gross keeps showing up on these lists. We all spent the year watching our QB get killed in the pocket and bemoaning our offensive line, and now everyone wants to cut our most consistent and important player just because he's slightly worse than the Pro Bowler he usually is.

He was not good this year, he got beat way too much. Plus not having Kalil and having Silatolu as a rookie meant all three position on the left side and middle were suspect. Add that hangman was playing center so we had to replace the right guard with a backup and he was never a great center and what would you expect. With Kalil back next year and Silatolu with a year of experience, and Hangman back at right guard, the line should be better with or without Gross.

[The Huddler]

I hope alot of these players will restructure.. I really like all of them..

[SIGCHI222]

I don't know why Gross keeps showing up on these lists. We all spent the year watching our QB get killed in the pocket and bemoaning our offensive line, and now everyone wants to cut our most consistent and important player just because he's slightly worse than the Pro Bowler he usually is.

Would you compromise and agree that he needs to be moved to the right side? With MAJOR restructuring?

I will be unlike most and actually listen to your response.

[fieryprophet]

Would you compromise and agree that he needs to be moved to the right side? With MAJOR restructuring?

I will be unlike most and actually listen to your response.

But who would we put on the left side? For me, it's not about whether Gross costs too much, it's that I'm terrified of Cam getting killed just because we need cap relief.

[Marguide]

I don't know why Gross keeps showing up on these lists. We all spent the year watching our QB get killed in the pocket and bemoaning our offensive line, and now everyone wants to cut our most consistent and important player just because he's slightly worse than the Pro Bowler he usually is.

It's pretty easy to understand why it would be a topic of discussion:
1) Gross' cap hit this year is over $11 million.
2) The 14th pick last year carried a cap hit of under $2 million.
3) This is a good draft for OT's.
4) We are reportedly $16 million over the cap going into the year.

I'm not necessarily saying he should get cut, but it certainly is a situation worth discussion. And just for the record, he was a 1st team Pro Bowler 1 time in his 10 year career, and went one other time.

[beach]

I know its been mentioned but I'm too lazy to search...is Gross' deal something we can restructure for cap space or is it a likely release? That's the big question I think that a lot are in the dark about and not necessarily about his play. The line shifting and having him like 55 said alongside Amini and Hang'man wasn't helping so it made him look expendable to many.

I think once Kalil is back...we have an almost solid situation: Gross-Amini-Kalil-_____-Bell until injuries and depth comes into play.

Hang'man is the weakest link by a long shot but I think gets a go by many teams due to his versatility and not necessarily his level of play. If we can restructure Gross, (& correct me if this is off) I think the best route would be to get a starting OG and further depth on the line who we can groom behind Gross for the future.

Don't forget he is one of the few locker room leaders for our offense. At least that was how it's been portrayed for a few seasons now through the local media. That's a big void if he's gone.

[SIGCHI222]

But who would we put on the left side? For me, it's not about whether Gross costs too much, it's that I'm terrified of Cam getting killed just because we need cap relief.

The Godfather takes care of the left side. We don't start 2013 naked over there.

[Marguide]

I know its been mentioned but I'm too lazy to search...is Gross' deal something we can restructure for cap space or is it a likely release?

Sure, Gross could be restructured/extended. It is just not always a wise idea to do that with an older player.

But let's say Gettleman goes to work and finds that we look to be in good shape in 2015 for example, then maybe he is not as reluctant to do it. Without having a spreadsheet showing all the commitments and anticipated future costs, it is hard for us novices to get a real good handle on it.

[jtnc]

I don't know why Gross keeps showing up on these lists. We all spent the year watching our QB get killed in the pocket and bemoaning our offensive line, and now everyone wants to cut our most consistent and important player just because he's slightly worse than the Pro Bowler he usually is.

Gross<<<<<Kalil

[fieryprophet]

Gross<<<<<Kalil

I agree Kalil is the better player, but protecting Cam's blind side is an imperative.

[jasonluckydog]

I have all the brown in my hair cause I let other people worry about this stuff,...I do hope for the best.

[Icege]

Gross played well. As is the case for the most part with ol, the only time they're noticed is when they mess up. Bell got shoved back on his heels fairly often while the interior was just foul.

RG needs to be filled, and I don't mean the 3rd.