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Here's an interesting article on homosexuality and biblical scholarship

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considering your data for experimenting on genesis would come almost entirely from archaeology and geology you're not very likely to come across the answer you're looking for

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considering your data for experimenting on genesis would come almost entirely from archaeology and geology you're not very likely to come across the answer you're looking for

Well that and far reaching theories to conveniently bridge the giagantic holes in the book do not help dispel the cave dwelling farmers who created this folklore.

How did new races result out of two original created humans..easy they both possesed the DNA of all races...and lived to 9000..

Why dont we live past 80 now? Sin in the DNA ..And Dinosaur bones are made of Satans toejam..

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Effeminate is used in the New testatment.

I Challenge you to show me an effeminate man and prove he is not gay. There are of cousre 2 types of gay men the effeminate ones and the more manly ones...... See what I did there... yeah Effeminate is in the new testament.

Dont' confuse with meek with effeminate. Jesus was meek.

I'm pretty sure I've read this before

Another big "screw you" to...you

When I was in High School I sang in the choir and did a little acting for fun - singing was serious for me, I made All State because I worked my ass off. I was surrounded all day by girls, it was fantastic....but of course all the jocks called me "gay", even though I also was in Civil Air Patrol, the hiking club, partied with the best of them...looks like you are one of those people at this point so yeah, sentence one above.

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Well if you believe this guy's story we are all just a stroke away from being gay

http://www.dailymail...=feeds-newsxml/

Rugby player who 'woke up gay' after stroke and now has fiance says he’s the happiest he’s ever been

When 19-stone rugby player Chris Birch suffered a stroke during a freak accident, his life was transformed - but not in a way that anyone could have predicted.

When he regained consciousness, the 26-year-old – who was engaged to his girlfriend at the time – found his sexuality had completely altered.

'The Chris I knew had gone and a new Chris sort of came along. I came to the realisation that the stroke had turned me gay,' he said.

He is now the subject of a BBC3 documentary, chronicling his attempt over the past few months to make sense of his new identity.

Chris had been attempting a forward roll down a hill in 2011 when the blood supply to his brain was cut off causing a stroke.

During a stroke the areas starved of oxygen, brain cells die and this can cause damage. However, the brain can make new neural connections and find different pathways to achieve the same thing.

Some scientists believe it is possible that during this recovery process a patient could discover a new skill, accent or even a new sexuality. However, personality changes following a stroke are rare and there have been no documented cases of a stroke changing a person's sexuality.

But Mr Birch, for one, is convinced. Within a year of his stroke he had quit his job at a bank and become a hairdresser, moved out of his family home in the Welsh valleys and started meeting men.

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Christians tend to harp on actions, and how actions condemn a person. Yet we miss the most important part completely. Men and women are not sinners because they sin, they sin because their sinners. It's in our DNA! So all this harping on homosexuality and how homosexuals should stop their feelings, is impossible to do. By the way, sin only exists if Genesis literally happened. The word means "to miss the mark". In terms of creation and our bodies, we are way off the mark concerning how we were in the day God created us. Thus we are sinners by nature.

For those interested, the word repent in the greek means to "change the mind". Anyone who says repent in terms of Christianity and see that word as feeling sorrowful or physically turning away from sin, that is not accurate at all. When a sinner repents, it means the person now sees himself/herself corrupt and unable to do good. Once they changed their mind about themselves, then they believe on Christ, receive His nature.

I'm with you on this Matthias. I once felt that we should block same sex marriage but now I realize its not for me to deal with. That will be between them and God, but if you ask me I still don't agree with it, but I don't agree with blocking it either. As far as repenting goes I've heard many variations Its hard to clear my head and get it straight. I'm not sure because I'm not the judge. It says that when you are saved you find repentence and the old you is gone and you start anew. You will still sin(always) but the new you shouldn't have habitual sin. There is a pasage about that in the bible but I forgot exactly where. Thats why I have a problem with homosexuals getting "ordained" as priest/ ministers... The way I see it is that they can't be homosexual and saved becuase they are not casting out the old... That is just my take, but like I said about the marriages I cannot judge so I should not worry about it.

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Thats why I have a problem with homosexuals getting "ordained" as priest/ ministers... The way I see it is that they can't be homosexual and saved becuase they are not casting out the old...

can you have extramartital heterosexual sex and be "saved"?

can you tell lies and be "saved"?

can you get divorced and be "saved"?

can you be prideful and be "saved"?

can you look at porn with lust in your heart and be "saved"?

can you speak in church as a woman and be "saved"?

can you speak to your brother in anger and be "saved"?

can you be rich and be "saved"?

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I'm with you on this Matthias. I once felt that we should block same sex marriage but now I realize its not for me to deal with. That will be between them and God, but if you ask me I still don't agree with it, but I don't agree with blocking it either. As far as repenting goes I've heard many variations Its hard to clear my head and get it straight. I'm not sure because I'm not the judge. It says that when you are saved you find repentence and the old you is gone and you start anew. You will still sin(always) but the new you shouldn't have habitual sin. There is a pasage about that in the bible but I forgot exactly where. Thats why I have a problem with homosexuals getting "ordained" as priest/ ministers... The way I see it is that they can't be homosexual and saved becuase they are not casting out the old... That is just my take, but like I said about the marriages I cannot judge so I should not worry about it.

With these bodies, we can sin. As a believer, we now have the freedom not to sin, yet even if we sin, we have to remember that sin was also placed on the cross and judged on Jesus as well. We realize that and move on in Christ, so we are no longer conscious of sin. (The more conscious you are of sin, the more you will commit sin. This is why the Ten Commandments were the strength of sin, because it constantly reminded us of who we are. Now that Jesus have come, we see that He is our righteousness. As we look more towards Him, seeing ourselves in Him, we will be transformed into into that same image. Sinning less and less, and yes, even not stumbling at all when you are completely aware of who you are in Christ)

Repentance means to change your mind. In order for a sinner to truly repent, he/she must realize he falls well short of God's standard. That there's nothing he can do to reach that standard. A homosexual priest haven't completely changed their mind concerning sin. They say it's not a sin, and therefore they are still sinners because Jesus can't take that sin upon Himself if they won't give it to Him. So they justify themselves instead of Jesus justifying them. So you are right, they haven't cast away the old nature in that regard. (Even if they knew we receive Jesus' righteousness to be justified, there is no such thing as being 90% saved, seeing 10% of the old nature not being off the mark)

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what about slave owners that died having never recognized that owning another human being was a sin? Is every slave owner pre-1865 in hell?

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what about slave owners that died having never recognized that owning another human being was a sin? Is every slave owner pre-1865 in hell?

Anyone seeking to justify themselves before God, will fall short. Of course, God will judge us based on what we know. With all that said, American slave owners sought to use the Bible (OT) to justify african slavery (and native american slavery for that matter). Yet according to the laws of the OT, if you captured anyone to make him a slave, the person who captured the slave would be put to death, and the slave was set free. According to the laws of the OT, the whole US would have been put to death.

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