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Here's an interesting article on homosexuality and biblical scholarship

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dc talk is a late 90's christian rock/rap group that helped usher in modern music into mainstream christian culture, and they met a lot of resistance from groups who saw rap and rock as intrinsically of the devil. one of their favorite tactics was leveling the term "effeminate" at one of the vocalists who wore his hair shaggily and wore floral print dress shirts, etc.

just providing context within tbterror's likely realm of knowledge and highlighting the fact that effeminate is a nuanced concept

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dc talk is a late 90's christian rock/rap group that helped usher in modern music into mainstream christian culture, and they met a lot of resistance from groups who saw rap and rock as intrinsically of the devil. one of their favorite tactics was leveling the term "effeminate" at one of the vocalists who wore his hair shaggily and wore floral print dress shirts, etc.

just providing context within tbterror's likely realm of knowledge and highlighting the fact that effeminate is a nuanced concept

never heard of em but I'll go out on a limb and say tbterror probably thinks they're going to hell too because that helps perpetuate his gay witch hunt

now back to the bible..

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So it's ok to be gay if you aren't effeminate, or do you think all gay men are effeminate?

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TbTerror is more obsessed with homosexuality than any straight male has a logical reason to be.

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

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oh that goes without saying. public opinion has swung so fast and far that probably approaching 100% of the hold outs are closet cases.

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So it's ok to be gay if you aren't effeminate, or do you think all gay men are effeminate?

well he did pretty much say in plain language that one can't produce an effeminate man who isn't gay.

I Challenge you to show me an effeminate man and prove he is not gay.

fyi tbterror is the "newtown shooting was caused by secularization of our school system and working mothers" guy. he also posited that adam lanza's brother that he saw on TV was "pretty metrosexual" and implied that the shooter might have been gay.

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this is still a focal point of debate for the united states, and, with religious grounding being the primary cause, it's important for non-religious and fundamentalist religious people alike to read this article. there's a lot of excellent points worth considering (and many of them point to some much deeper questions about biblical scholarship and literalist interpretations, but that's another thread for another time.

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it's a good read and not terribly long.

I have to disagree with this to an extent. It depends on the parameters you set but the way I read Romans 1:26-27 it certainly seems like homosexual acts are sinful.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

edit: Maybe I should read more than just the OP before responding. looks like someone already brought this up.

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dc talk is a late 90's christian rock/rap group that helped usher in modern music into mainstream christian culture, and they met a lot of resistance from groups who saw rap and rock as intrinsically of the devil. one of their favorite tactics was leveling the term "effeminate" at one of the vocalists who wore his hair shaggily and wore floral print dress shirts, etc.

just providing context within tbterror's likely realm of knowledge and highlighting the fact that effeminate is a nuanced concept

Now this song is in my head. Thanks

The other night I met a girl, and she looked to be so nice I asked her for the digits, and she didn't think twice A couple of days later called her up and asked her out She said,"With you?" I said, "With me"

And then she said, "Without a doubt I took her to the garden where I guess they grow the olives She wore a tighter skirt than any I had seen in college

She said, "I love to smoke and drink, while cursing like a sailor" I asked her where she got her mouth, and if she had a tailor Finally I walked her to the door to say goodnight She said,"I am an apple, would you care to take a bite?"

Politely I refused and said, "I'm looking for a lady" So she slapped me in my face and said "Boy, you must be crazy"

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Now this song is in my head. Thanks

Awww Cat is having DCTalk concert flashbacks.

I tried to like Christian Rock, but man...its just awful.

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Awww Cat is having DCTalk concert flashbacks.

I tried to like Christian Rock, but man...its just awful.

yea... i wish i could say i tried... but i didn't. It seemed too incongruous to listen to both Slayer and DC Talk.

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well he did pretty much say in plain language that one can't produce an effeminate man who isn't gay.

fyi tbterror is the "newtown shooting was caused by secularization of our school system and working mothers" guy. he also posited that adam lanza was gay.

You almost quoted me right.. I wasn't answering the question of why did newtown happen/ not directly. I was responding to a poster who asked why MORE of these shootings were happening. The removal of the life lessons and morality the bible encourages from our school is where I lay the blame to the down trend of our society as a whole. Also the lack of attention to detail on how our kids are raised which can be directly attributed to putting their care in others hands.(ie woman going to work instead of raising their own TV, and Day Cares do this.) How people are raised and learn the lessons of life have a lot to do with peoples actions later in life no?

As far as the guy who posted above saying I care too much about the homo-issue umm bro I've started no topics on the matter.... so can I assume the huddle is Gay rights Gun/Anti gun obsessed? Thats pretty much all we talk about except for the random alien and gov conspiracy(which always leads back to guns).

I'm not sure if my opposition on these matters are pro gay or hardcore anti-religion.

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