How can I prove morality is from god...with out invoking god?
Morality is starting to fade and wain. Just as it says it did before in the bible and it will again is now.
Porn is a lot less shameful than it used to be. Its slowly becoming socially acceptable. Now we all talk about yeah I look at porn hahaha.
. Look at the changes in TV programming. My kids can hardly watch anything outside of Cartoon channels with out hearing curse words.
Somewhere in the not so distant past these things became not so bad. Eventually they will be accepted. How did we go from thats not good to man this is getting dirty. There are sexual innuendos all over prime time TV shows. Things that would have never been accepted years ago. Why do we shelter them kids from sex? There is no scientific reason to do so? There is no reason for a lot of things we do unless you turn to faith. Why do you hide these things from kids? Because you feel responsible to do so... but why?
You gonna tell me its because society was ingrained with it? How did society get ingrained with it? You mentioned its because its how your parents raised you... well extrapolate that to their parents and then their parents an so on.
Where does this theme of dessensitization end?
I'm interesting in seeing your take on this. Where did we learn shame?
It seems to me that here you stand arguing that morality is fluid. Ever changing. Not absolute. But you also want to assert it is based on the principles of an unchanging static deity (by that deity's own admission I believe... might be mistaken as I can't quote the verse to you) according to the teachings of the traditions from which that deity was borrowed.
My take? There is no objective morality is the start of my take on it. What is evil to me is not evil to you. If it were you would not assert mythology to be true unless we can demonstrate the veracity of its claims.
Where did we learn shame? At this time I don't know. Maybe I can research it to some extent. As of right now just guessing I would say that shame probably is related to genetic traits that were more successful because the emotion gives some kind of advantage to humans while interacting with other humans over those who do not have the emotion of shame. I really don't know though and it is okay to admit it. In fact it is better to admit not knowing than to assert without doubt that which I cannot show to be true.