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#85 King Taharqa

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

You're not "calling out" jackshit. You're on a goddamn message board accusing a man whose team is $16 million over the salary cap of being cheap.


Salary cap is a fixed cost. How much extra has he spent on coaches? Scouting? Dude kept his flukey Hurney as GM for how long? He's el cheapo and runs his business as such. You guys get defensive cuz you know he sucks. The best thing you can say was "he got us a team". Losing is his culture.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:32 AM

You might want to look at how a salary cap works. Just because he is $16M over the cap does not mean his is paying $140M this year. Also there's a minimum that they have to spend.


You might want to follow your own advice, natch. The minimum cap hasn't been enforced yet, and no matter how you work the cap, that money gets paid eventually unless you outright cut a player and accelerate his cap hit.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

True, but the problem is JR dosent know when JR is gonna kick the bucket. I dont think he really cares what happens to the team when he dies. If he was willing to put forth the effort to ensure the team stays here, why wouldnt he disclose the details to us? It could only be seen a positive and help to restore some of lost faith and damage to his name he's suffered among the fanbase and community. If he cared, why would he not put everyone at ease by announcing his plan rather than saying "NFL, the team must be sold within 2 years of my passing"? Hell, he already knows that NC\SC will do whatever necessary to keep the team here...

WTF is his problem since getting the heart transplant? Ppl need to open their eyes and realize that he has changed!

JR is one of those ppl that only cares about you if he has a personal relationship with you, like the one he has with members of his organization (Olsen, 89, Jake, TD). If he dosent know you personally, he will quickly look down his nose at you like you dont deserve common respect (fans - 0 communication and providing a subpar product, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Jim Harbaugh, media).


You obviously know absolutely nothing about Jerry Richardson.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

You might want to follow your own advice, natch. The minimum cap hasn't been enforced yet, and no matter how you work the cap, that money gets paid eventually unless you outright cut a player and accelerate his cap hit.

No it doesn't. If the salaries were guaranteed you might have a leg to stand on but they are not.

Salary does not equal cap hit.

Thanks for playing though

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

The hatred of JR by some of our "fans" is unreal. If you don't want to be "shaken down" it's simple, go outside of Mecklenburg County for your prepared food, or else head to Harris Teeter buy it and cook it yourself.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

Salary cap is a fixed cost. How much extra has he spent on coaches? Scouting? Dude kept his flukey Hurney as GM for how long? He's el cheapo and runs his business as such. You guys get defensive cuz you know he sucks. The best thing you can say was "he got us a team". Losing is his culture.


John Fox was one of the highest paid coaches in the league, Hurney kept the front office small of his own accord, and you literally are clueless if you imagine he's even remotely cheap. Have we already forgtten about the entirely new player's gym? The expanded video board? The introduction of wifi at the stadium before almost anyone else in the league was doing it? Paying his team employees during the lockout, unlike many other NFL owners who forced their staffs into unpaid furloughs?

Just because he went through one salary cap purge in preparation for the top draft pick and for what was shaping up as a nasty labor battle doesn't make him cheap.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:39 AM

The hatred of JR by some of our "fans" is unreal. If you don't want to be "shaken down" it's simple, go outside of Mecklenburg County for your prepared food, or else head to Harris Teeter buy it and cook it yourself.



I don't hate him as a person. I hate him as an owner of a team that I cheer for. Sorry I dont want a tax increase to renovate a billionaires private business.

If every person who attended the games would pay $35 more per ticket for 5 years he would get his $125M....you are using the escalators and jumbotrons you pay for them. And when I buy a ticket I will pay for them as well.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:39 AM

No it doesn't. If the salaries were guaranteed you might have a leg to stand on but they are not.

Salary does not equal cap hit.

Thanks for playing though


You are so goddamn ignorant, it's a wonder you can form polysyllabic words. If you paid the slightest bit of attention to the GIANT signing bonuses Hurney was fond of handing out, those signing bonuses are fully guaranteed, even if a player is cut. When we have to cut contracts to get back under the salary cap every season then it's obvious we are paying out close to the salary cap in the season prior, otherwise there wouldn't be a need. But when you frontload contracts with huge guaranteed money like we did for so long, then you end up over the salary cap year after year.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

I don't hate him as a person. I hate him as an owner of a team that I cheer for. Sorry I dont want a tax increase to renovate a billionaires private business.

If every person who attended the games would pay $35 more per ticket for 5 years he would get his $125M....you are using the escalators and jumbotrons you pay for them. And when I buy a ticket I will pay for them as well.


$35 a ticket? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR F*CKING MIND?!?!?! You're basically guaranteeing a price hike of $140 per family of four per game and expect that it wouldn't turn fans away in droves. You are an imbecile.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

You are so goddamn ignorant, it's a wonder you can form polysyllabic words. If you paid the slightest bit of attention to the GIANT signing bonuses Hurney was fond of handing out, those signing bonuses are fully guaranteed, even if a player is cut. When we have to cut contracts to get back under the salary cap every season then it's obvious we are paying out close to the salary cap in the season prior, otherwise there wouldn't be a need. But when you frontload contracts with huge guaranteed money like we did for so long, then you end up over the salary cap year after year.


still wrong about how salary caps work

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

Salary cap is a fixed cost. How much extra has he spent on coaches? Scouting? Dude kept his flukey Hurney as GM for how long? He's el cheapo and runs his business as such. You guys get defensive cuz you know he sucks. The best thing you can say was "he got us a team". Losing is his culture.


The coach and scouting department architecture is all GM relegated. The FO structure was different under Polian and different again under Seifert, and changed again under Hurney. It will change again, over time, with Gettleman.

You're just talking out of your ass.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

$35 a ticket? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR F*CKING MIND?!?!?! You're basically guaranteeing a price hike of $140 per family of four per game and expect that it wouldn't turn fans away in droves. You are an imbecile.


Yeah...charging the people who use the stadium for renovations instead of tax payers. I am clearly out of my mind. Thats preposterous.

Perhaps if he fielded a winning team more than 4 times out of 18 those increases would be more palatble