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Parcells & Taylor have solution to read-options(play-action run).genius

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He means on read option runs. First guy hits the QB no matter what he thinks the QB will do. This automatically turns the read option into 1 option- RB. If the ends go after the QB no matter what the QB will dish the ball or take a loss/ small gain.

Also, isn't the RB half of the read-option? So he'd give the RBs 15yards per play just to touch the QBs? Now I get it. I am not good at understanding the words of geniuses. With those 15 yards per play by the time they put enoug hits on those QBs they'd be 5 TDs up with the back up doing clean up duty.

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you could easily argue our G play at that point was the worst in the NFL (Piggy and a very shakey rookie).

read option has proven to work on good fronts. Bad OL play pretty much squashes anything.

Agreed, but IMO, what makes the read-option effective is the mystery of who is getting/keeping the ball. If you ensure that a dynamic QB can't run if he keeps it, you can live with the RB getting his yards, because they are a runner by design anyway...

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you could easily argue our G play at that point was the worst in the NFL (Piggy and a very shakey rookie).

read option has proven to work on good fronts. Bad OL play pretty much squashes anything.

yep. the reason that the read option didn't work was because of the OL and chud's narrow usage of it, as in it was easy to defend because 90+% of the time the defenses could be sure we weren't going to be throwing it when we lined up in a read option type formation.

we were as predictable as any davidson offense only without the benefit of a stout OL blocking.

it was just a bad mixture.

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Agreed, but IMO, what makes the read-option effective is the mystery of who is getting/keeping the ball. If you ensure that a dynamic QB can't run if he keeps it, you can live with the RB getting his yards, because they are a runner by design anyway...

well, i would add to that mystery whether or not the QB was going to throw. we just left out that part around here. there has to be an element of play action in it.

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well, i would add to that mystery whether or not the QB was going to throw. we just left out that part around here. there has to be an element of play action in it.

Definitely... I was just referring to the read option itself. If the pass is a threat, you can't commit guys like you would when you know it's a run.

That being said, even if you kept keying on the QB with athletic DEs, you can't go wrong. The key is the QB.

But, yeah, our problem were many early on... Among them, there was absolutely no guesswork when it came to formations, tendencies, blocking, etc.

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Definitely... I was just referring to the read option itself. If the pass is a threat, you can't commit guys like you would when you know it's a run.

That being said, even if you kept keying on the QB with athletic DEs, you can't go wrong. The key is the QB.

But, yeah, our problem were many early on... Among them, there was absolutely no guesswork when it came to formations, tendencies, blocking, etc.

one of the things that kelly did quite often was run play action off of it along with a lot of other more traditional plays.

the more dimension you add to it, the more successful it will be....just like any other running scheme.

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First off, doesn't even make sense

Why? The read-option isn't run every play, well it's not supposed to be, so there's no way to know when its coming

You stop the person with the ball, not the one without. What team is going to go away from big play gains

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First off, doesn't even make sense

Why? The read-option isn't run every play, well it's not supposed to be, so there's no way to know when its coming

You stop the person with the ball, not the one without. What team is going to go away from big play gains

agreed, but that's the way we ran it.

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Parcells is right. Obviously, if it's a fake run, you have to pull up and not hit the QB. But if you direct the D (usually the DE) to play the QB on all apparent read options, it can be effective.

That would work if that DE is not accounted for by a LT/RT. Those guys are being blocked too, you know. It takes them a good 3s for most DE to get to the QB, by then the RB is already in the secondary. That strategy could have some success if the read-option was the main offense. The 49ers only run it on a keep by the QB maybe 6 times per game where on most games teams run about 70 plays. Even RG3 didn't keep it that much. That's why Morris jacked those defenses for 1600yards. Pretty much needle in a haysack. Now you have a LB/DE doing nothing on 64 other plays. Not smart.

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You have an offensive line, and TE's if you want to add them. I mean you don't just let people roam around being untouched. Its usually man on man

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I am not really sure what the original poster is trying to say with play action and adjusting defenses, but it sounds like parcells is just advocating playing your defense and hitting the quarterback as often as possible when you have the opportunity. You'll get flagged a few times, but the hesitation and wear and tear on the quarterback will probably be worth it.

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long story short:

Parcells said this morning on a sh*tty sports show that teams need to realize to treat the read option like a play action

The read option should be renamed "play-action run". Because, same as the play-action pass you have to have a running game or threat of a run. The more you think of teams that run the read option the more you realize how scary it is to defend against. Our Cam gutted those defenses for 740 yards on a 'slump' year with bad OL. And not to mention over 3800 yards through the air. I love this offense. No one can stop it but Rivera. If Kaepernick had started the whole year he'd probably rush for 1000 yards.

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