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Parcells & Taylor have solution to read-options(play-action run).genius

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The read option should be renamed "play-action run". Because, same as the play-action pass you have to have a running game or threat of a run. The more you think of teams that run the read option the more you realize how scary it is to defend against. Our Cam gutted those defenses for 740 yards on a 'slump' year with bad OL. And not to mention over 3800 yards through the air. I love this offense. No one can stop it but Rivera. If Kaepernick had started the whole year he'd probably rush for 1000 yards.

The offense is fine, unfortunately the play calls at certain times and on certain downs is the reason we missed the playoffs once again

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Also, isn't the RB half of the read-option? So he'd give the RBs 15yards per play just to touch the QBs? Now I get it. I am not good at understanding the words of geniuses. With those 15 yards per play by the time they put enoug hits on those QBs they'd be 5 TDs up with the back up doing clean up duty.

when you are playing agianst an option you have man to man responsibilites. You tell your DE not to guess and go for QB. The OLB is responsible for the RB and not charging in after the QB. Isn't this just plain ole assignment football they talk about it in college all the time. Trust your teammates to be where they are supposed to and don't shirk your assignment on option plays.

Edit: Also on pitch plays your still allowed to blow the QB up because he's not passing I could be wrong not sure?

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one defender usually determines (DE) who gets the ball on a read option. most of the time, that defender is free. if that defender plays the QB all the time, it will dictate that the running back gets the ball. the defender doesn't necessarily have to touch the qb, he just has to "play" him.

the rest of the defense plays the back.

Then the RBs would be in the secondary on every play. And remember, the read-option is played on both left and right side. That's to LB/DE ignoring the RB on every play just "playing" the QB. You're advocating double teaming the QB on every play. Now the offense is one player up, what do you think OCs gonna use that free player for? Walk in TD.

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Agreed, but IMO, what makes the read-option effective is the mystery of who is getting/keeping the ball. If you ensure that a dynamic QB can't run if he keeps it, you can live with the RB getting his yards, because they are a runner by design anyway...

RBs are capable of gutting defenses for 250 yards so those read-option offenses would take that too. You think the 49ers would feel sad if Kaepernick run for 0 yard while gore rack up 250. More than one way to skin a cat.

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Actually, everyone should listen to The Great Proudiddy.

If you have a solid front 7, key on the QB. Not repeatedly hit him, but you contain him every play. You approach each play as though he is going to run it.

Go back and watch what the Giants game from this year. That is exactly what they did to us. If your front 7 is strong enough, give the RB his carries and live with it.

Well, they couldn't do the same to the Redskins that played them twice.

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you could easily argue our G play at that point was the worst in the NFL (Piggy and a very shakey rookie).

read option has proven to work on good fronts. Bad OL play pretty much squashes anything.

The Giants got manhandled twice by the skins. A much inferior team personnel wise they still were on skate most of the game by the read option. Even Justin Tuck said his peace about facing that offense and happy he was facing Brees the following week.

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one of the things that kelly did quite often was run play action off of it along with a lot of other more traditional plays.

the more dimension you add to it, the more successful it will be....just like any other running scheme.

Yep! That's exactly what the seahawks, 49ers, and redskins do. We need to get there too. Plus a lot of time those dynamic QBs beat their man too. Parcells didn't account for that either.

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Ask RG3's knee how effective it is

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You have an offensive line, and TE's if you want to add them. I mean you don't just let people roam around being untouched. Its usually man on man

And a lot of those big plays come by when the QB beat their man. And they beat their man more often than not. I just love the future this franchise have although I'm biting my tongue on Rivera.

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you can't get penalized for hitting the QB because he isn't out of the play. matter of fact, he's assumed to be the playmaker until that last second he ditches the ball, leaving him wide open to get knocked the fug out..

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I am not really sure what the original poster is trying to say with play action and adjusting defenses, but it sounds like parcells is just advocating playing your defense and hitting the quarterback as often as possible when you have the opportunity. You'll get flagged a few times, but the hesitation and wear and tear on the quarterback will probably be worth it.

How much wear and tear can a QB really have running it a few times a game? Rodgers was the most sacked QB in the league last year. Even RG3 barely gets hit when I watch him play. His injury was just a freak accident. Cam got hit more dropping back than on read options.

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nice in theory....but that essentially opens up the RB's hole more easily. Also, sets up the D for penalties.

That is true, but Parcells understands how important the qb is in today's game. After watching their multimillion dollar qb get planted into the turf a few times, and get up wobbly, coaches will start to shy away from a play that makes the qb a runner and doesn't give them a chance to get down before getting hit. And fwiw, a chance to plant the qb might pay dividends later in the game and might be worth the risk of a penalty or two, or a couple of long runs by the rb.

This strategy might work better though against guys like Wilson and Griffin than against a bigger runner like Cam.

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