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If a sure-fire WR1 is not available after our first 2 picks, should we wait? Presuming we go Line with 1 and 2


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#46 rscott94

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

I said I believe Smitty has at least one more beastly year. I am not one of these Smitty-is-falling-off-a-cliff people, though we have to be realistic in this situation. 89 is not gonna last forever. Do I think he can still be an integral part of any NFL offense for a few more years? I won't be the one betting against him.


My bad I misunderstood you...

I'd love to get this guy as a future number one when ever he's draft eligible


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

We need all those positions equally..there are a few Wrs in this draft who I think can be number ones or 1-A..where a Lafell is like a 2-B..

Allen, Williams(depending on combine) can be number 1s.. Austin, Hopkins, Patterson, can be no 2's and who ever thought Smitty would be anything more than a slot guy? I did not even mention the Tenn guys or Louisiana Tech guy..not a draft that we can afford not come away with a choice WR that fits the system perfectly.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

I like to ask some Question to you WR people.

1. Do you really think there is a Wr in this draft that we can get at 14 or in the 2nd round that day 1 can replace Smith? If not it's a wasted pick.

Unless you're getting a Megatron, AJ Green, A Johnson, Dez Bryant, or Julio Jones. It's not worth drafting a Wr for this team in the 1st round. When we have bigger needs at DT, Oline, and CB.


I think we can get one who we can groom into our future no.1. Not one who can come out and give 1k his rookie season but one who can give probably around 500-800yds and 4-5 tds.

I can see Keenan, Hunter, Twill, Hopkins and Rogers hitting a 500yd season in this offense with Cam, Smitty and Olsen. That's just what I think

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

My bad I misunderstood you...

I'd love to get this guy as a future number one when ever he's draft eligible


Cooper will be a Top5 pick. People are already saying he's better than when Green was at UGA

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:27 PM

I disagree with this. Furney drafted 7 wr (Colbert, Jarret, Carter, Robinson, and many more) then they brought in FA wr (Hackett, Keyshawn, Washington, and brought back Moose) . So they tried to fix this it just hasn't worked out.

and many more? as in 3?

when were they drafted? how many were early picks? aside from the guys picked up in '10-'11 hurney had drafted exactly 2 WRs prior to the 3rd round (colbert and jarrett) and rhyne robinson was the only other one drafted before the 5th round. that isn't showing any kind of seriousness about the WR position at all.

and when the list of FAs that you can mention is limited to "Hackett, Keyshawn, Washington, and brought back Moose" that in itself is pretty sad.

the passing game wasn't taken seriously at all. not by the GM. not by the coach.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

I like to ask some Question to you WR people.

1. Do you really think there is a Wr in this draft that we can get at 14 or in the 2nd round that day 1 can replace Smith? If not it's a wasted pick.

Unless you're getting a Megatron, AJ Green, A Johnson, Dez Bryant, or Julio Jones. It's not worth drafting a Wr for this team in the 1st round. When we have bigger needs at DT, Oline, and CB.


what? no, but there are WRs who would be great compliments to him that can run vertically up field and take some of the coverage away from Smith with potential to become a #1 WR. you dont know who you are getting, until you get them. the Falcons had Roddy but still traded the farm for Julio. Packers had a stable of WRs but still brought more in. the Giants had Nicks/Cruz but still spent a 2nd on Randle. most successful teams give their QBs plenty of weapons.

and you right Hurney did try to find WRs in trash can behind Golden Wonk.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

Cooper will be a Top5 pick. People are already saying he's better than when Green was at UGA

We should try and execute a trade to snag him the kid is a beast....

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

what? no, but there are WRs who would be great compliments to him that can run vertically up field and take some of the coverage away from Smith with potential to become a #1 WR. you dont know who you are getting, until you get them. the Falcons had Roddy but still traded the farm for Julio. Packers had a stable of WRs but still brought more in. the Giants had Nicks/Cruz but still spent a 2nd on Randle. most successful teams give their QBs plenty of weapons.

and you right Hurney did try to find WRs in trash can behind Golden Wonk.


Yep! Todays game has change. It's hard for a team to win with just one true no.1 WR like a Calvin or Larry. Its a pass happy offense that you have a lot of true no.2 WR looking like no.1. It's a receivers by committee group.

For example, look at Baltimore. Torrey Smith back then would look like what he is, a no.2 WR in any offense. Now even though he's a no.2 receiver hes one who can stretch the field. He completely destroyed Champ last weekend.

Also GB has a bunch of no.1 receivers that won't look like theyre no.1 (that go to guy). The ball is being spread everywhere on the field. Everyone is going to do their part. I rather have two no.1 receivers who can stretch the field than a true go to guy in today's offense.

Hopkins, Twill and Rogers seemed like they're guys who can score tds. That's what we need.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:38 PM

I think we can get one who we can groom into our future no.1. Not one who can come out and give 1k his rookie season but one who can give probably around 500-800yds and 4-5 tds.

I can see Keenan, Hunter, Twill, Hopkins and Rogers hitting a 500yd season in this offense with Cam, Smitty and Olsen. That's just what I think


And I can see Gettis, Lafell, and Murphy do the same thing.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

And I can see Gettis, Lafell, and Murphy do the same thing.


Let's quit the Lafell talk. If I'm not mistaken we had this debate for a good while early before the season. We seen what happened. Lafell goes invisible in games constantly and he's not one who'll get you a lot of tds.

I think that Twill, Hopkins and Rogers can give that 500+ yards in limited actions as a rookie. But they'll be able to score tds by stretching the field like a Torrey Smith. They're better receiver IMO than Lafell. I see them being consistent receivers who are not going to go invisible in games. And will only become better as time passes

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

what? no, but there are WRs who would be great compliments to him that can run vertically up field and take some of the coverage away from Smith with potential to become a #1 WR. you dont know who you are getting, until you get them. the Falcons had Roddy but still traded the farm for Julio. Packers had a stable of WRs but still brought more in. the Giants had Nicks/Cruz but still spent a 2nd on Randle. most successful teams give their QBs plenty of weapons.

and you right Hurney did try to find WRs in trash can behind Golden Wonk.


The falcons did that because they have a Qb who needs that to be successful. Great Qb like I think we have makes his weapons better.

Brady won superbowls with no name wr. Brees makes his wr better. Rodgers makes his wr better.

Our Wr weren't the problem this year our OC was.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:48 PM

The falcons did that because they have a Qb who needs that to be successful. Great Qb like I think we have makes his weapons better.

Brady won superbowls with no name wr. Brees makes his wr better. Rodgers makes his wr better.

Our Wr weren't the problem this year our OC was.


That's not the case here. Though Cam brought back an old Smitty who many thought was finished, he's not Brady or Brees.

Cam isn't going to make Lafell, Murphy or Gettis better. We have to give better receivers for Cam in order for him and this offense to be better.

We threw the ball more than we ran it and Lafell or Murphy wasn't able to do much. What makes you think they'll be more successful if we go to a more balance offense. It's not completely the OC fault. Sometimes you just gotta realize Lafell isn't that no.2 WR.

Cam isn't goin to win SB with no name receivers. Lets just get that outta the way

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

Yep! Todays game has change. It's hard for a team to win with just one true no.1 WR like a Calvin or Larry. Its a pass happy offense that you have a lot of true no.2 WR looking like no.1. It's a receivers by committee group.

For example, look at Baltimore. Torrey Smith back then would look like what he is, a no.2 WR in any offense. Now even though he's a no.2 receiver hes one who can stretch the field. He completely destroyed Champ last weekend.

Also GB has a bunch of no.1 receivers that won't look like theyre no.1 (that go to guy). The ball is being spread everywhere on the field. Everyone is going to do their part. I rather have two no.1 receivers who can stretch the field than a true go to guy in today's offense.

Hopkins, Twill and Rogers seemed like they're guys who can score tds. That's what we need.

yep. the "feed the stud" mindset is flying out the door.

better than having one true stud is having a solid committee. you don't need a smitty replacement. you need a solid corps. if you have 3-4 WRs going out every down in addition to the TE(s) and RBs making themselves available, and you have the running threat of cam, there should always be solid options if your WRs don't suck.

you can get by with a few 2-4th rounders on your team. packers, pats, and saints have been doing that for years. more teams are going to be catching on to that as the spread spreads.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

Let's quit the Lafell talk. If I'm not mistaken we had this debate for a good while early before the season. We seen what happened. Lafell goes invisible in games constantly and he's not one who'll get you a lot of tds.

I think that Twill, Hopkins and Rogers can give that 500+ yards in limited actions as a rookie. But they'll be able to score tds by stretching the field like a Torrey Smith. They're better receiver IMO than Lafell. I see them being consistent receivers who are not going to go invisible in games.


Oh I'm so glad you brought that up. Do you remember who you were going Gaga for last draft?

Let me remind you when you were making this same dumb argument.

Stephen Hill From Gtech 6'4 215 running a 4.37 in the forty. You and others went crazy for him.

21 rec. 252 yards 3 TD in 11 games played. How did that work out?





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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

Oh I'm so glad you brought that up. Do you remember who you were going Gaga for last draft?

Let me remind you when you were making this same dumb argument.

Stephen Hill From Gtech 6'4 215 running a 4.37 in the forty. You and others went crazy for him.

21 rec. 252 yards 3 TD in 11 games played. How did that work out?


He's a rookie who is very raw. The Jets were badd at QB and eveywhere else. I blame Sanchez, but if you remember Hill started the first week of the season with 2tds.

Hill will be legit given a better QB production. I see Hill being just as good as D. Thomas of Denver if giving a real QB.

You can't tell me Hill is a bust already. I would've been happy if we had Hill over Amini.


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