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If a sure-fire WR1 is not available after our first 2 picks, should we wait? Presuming we go Line with 1 and 2


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#76 koolkatluke

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

I know that you were calling Lafell elite also. How hes going to become that true no.2 receiver. And no one believed me that he always find way to disappear in games. Always brought up how he scored that 91yd td vs the Bucs. Cho cho cho


At no point did I call Lafell elite so now you're a dumb ass and a liar. And again you wanted to draft a Wr in the 2nd round who didn't know the route tree and has bad hands.

If we had done what you thought was a good idea last year. We would have a hole at LG and a another tall fast wr sitting behind Lafell, Murphy, Edwards, Pilaris, and Adams.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

as much as i hate to say this but that other weapon has help them get over the hump and thats part of why they are playing on sunday. deion branch, troy brown and david givens were all decent WRs at one point. ARod has 3 2nd round WRs to throw to on top of being a good QB.WRs where part of the problem with drops, and not getting open, or slips on routes.


Sorry the panthers ranked top 5 in least drops.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

as much as i hate to say this but that other weapon has help them get over the hump and thats part of why they are playing on sunday. deion branch, troy brown and david givens were all decent WRs at one point. ARod has 3 2nd round WRs to throw to on top of being a good QB.WRs where part of the problem with drops, and not getting open, or slips on routes.


Koolkatluke is missing the point. Branch, Givens, Troy etc are all very consistent receivers even though they're no namers. The system they play in also has a lot to do with that. Also playin with a Brady or Brees, they expect a lot out of you. I'm not saying Cam doesn't though. I'm sure he does.

With Lafell, he has shown in his three seasons that he'll find ways to disappear. He's not consistent. He's never going to be that guy that you can go to on two-three consecutive plays. If lucky, he'll grab a 91yarder and that'll be it.

Good receivers that help you win are the one who catches 7+ balls a game, not 1-2 for 91yd. What does 7+rec tells you??? Its telling that you're moving the chain constantly and your offense is in position to score points.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

At no point did I call Lafell elite so now you're a dumb ass and a liar. And again you wanted to draft a Wr in the 2nd round who didn't know the route tree and has bad hands.

If we had done what you thought was a good idea last year. We would have a hole at LG and a another tall fast wr sitting behind Lafell, Murphy, Edwards, Pilaris, and Adams.


We needed a WR more last year than this year. What r u talking about.

No one knew we were going to draft Amini or even an OL last year. Though I did make an Amini thread a week right before the draft

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

Koolkatluke is missing the point. Branch, Givens, Troy etc are all very consistent receivers even though they're no namers. The system they play in also has a lot to do with that. Also playin with a Brady or Brees, they expect a lot out of you. I'm not saying Cam doesn't though. I'm sure he does.

With Lafell, he has shown in his three seasons that he'll find ways to disappear. He's not consistent. He's never going to be that guy that you can go to on two-three consecutive plays. If lucky, he'll grab a 91yarder and that'll be it.

Good receivers that help you win are the one who catches 7+ balls a game, not 1-2 for 91yd. What does 7+rec tells you??? Its telling that you're moving the chain constantly and your offense is in position to score points.


They were all no where near the talent of the wr that Matt Ryan has. Brady made them better.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

We needed a WR more last year than this year. What r u talking about.

No one knew we were going to draft Amini or even an OL last year. Though I did make an Amini thread a week right before the draft


And I don't agree. I think we have enough weapons to have a top 5 offense if we tweak the o-line and the OC doesn't have his head up his ass.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Sorry the panthers ranked top 5 in least drops.

but look when drops happened. Lafell makes that catch we win vs KC. Smitty does not slip on Joe Blades,no pick 6. a 6'2 WR catches the ball on the 1 but cannot fight for that extra yard so now you have to go for it on 4th down vs the seahawks. just to many plays on the field where the WRs needed to make a play but did not.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

but look when drops happened. Lafell makes that catch we win vs KC. Smitty does not slip on Joe Blades,no pick 6. a 6'2 WR catches the ball on the 1 but cannot fight for that extra yard so now you have to go for it on 4th down vs the seahawks. just to many plays on the field where the WRs needed to make a play but did not.


That's you living in the fish bowl. You know every drop this team made but how many did other teams have.

Plus to blame those drops as reason we lost games is a little much.
What about the defense not stopping Brady freaking Quinn?
What about D-will and Stewie fumbles in the Seahawks game?
What about letting a team with no TO run the same play over and over again until they get in FG range?

To try to use their few drops that happen a a major game changer is crazy. Every team has drops. We just had less then most.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

They were all no where near the talent of the wr that Matt Ryan has. Brady made them better.


We're not even talking Ryan here. Atlanta receivers are elite and they're making Ryan better and better each year.

The only two QBs that can make scrubs better than they are, are Brady and Manning.

Brees have legit Wrs: Colston, Moore, Meachem and Graham, and GB and Ryan both has elite receivers.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

We're not even talking Ryan here. Atlanta receivers are elite and they're making Ryan better and better each year.

The only two QBs that can make scrubs better than they are, are Brady and Manning.

Brees have legit Wrs: Colston, Moore, Meachem and Graham, and GB and Ryan both has elite receivers.


And Ryan an his elite Wr barley squeak by not getting swept by Cam and his (in your opinion) sub par wr.

Colston 7th round pick, Moore was he even drafted? Meachem sucks as shown from what he did this year in SD.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

That's you living in the fish bowl. You know every drop this team made but how many did other teams have.

Plus to blame those drops as reason we lost games is a little much.
What about the defense not stopping Brady freaking Quinn?
What about D-will and Stewie fumbles in the Seahawks game?
What about letting a team with no TO run the same play over and over again until they get in FG range?

To try to use their few drops that happen a a major game changer is crazy. Every team has drops. We just had less then most.

you seen wouldnt stop Brady but yet if Lafell makes that catch game over.W
with 2 fumbles if Murphy does not allow the CB to hit him back on the 1 yard line,again game over W.
It should have never came to that, throwing a timing route in the flat vs a cover 2 team is dumb. but the WR slipping on the route made it worst. its about just the drops, its about the plays being left on the field. this position needs to be upgraded.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

you seen wouldnt stop Brady but yet if Lafell makes that catch game over.W
with 2 fumbles if Murphy does not allow the CB to hit him back on the 1 yard line,again game over W.
It should have never came to that, throwing a timing route in the flat vs a cover 2 team is dumb. but the WR slipping on the route made it worst. its about just the drops, its about the plays being left on the field. this position needs to be upgraded.


No that's just you having a hard on for Wr that you bring up any reason you can think of to discredit ours.

Lafell dropping that pass didn't lose us the KC game. Not being able to stop Quinn was the reason we lost.

Fumbling twice on our side of the field lost us the Seahawks game.

Not being able to stop the same play over and over again lost us the bears game.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

funny thing is,i dont have a hard on for WR, bpa will be selected. its just that WR will be apart of that, and if he comes down to it the GM will not be scared to pull the trigger on one like the previous. when the diva WR, says he needs help, and there needs to be more weapons than it really is a problem.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

funny thing is,i dont have a hard on for WR, bpa will be selected. its just that WR will be apart of that, and if he comes down to it the GM will not be scared to pull the trigger on one like the previous. when the diva WR, says he needs help, and there needs to be more weapons than it really is a problem.


He said that like 2 years ago. Since then he's signed to be here the rest of his career. If Bpa at 14 is a wr then whatever. But I don't see a Megatron AJ green or Julio in this draft. And we are not a team that can use a 1st round pick on a non starter.


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