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OK, so if no heir to Smitty is in our draft plans, or in the draft at all,then FA is critical


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#31 DeAngelo's #1 Fan(CRA)

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

I ask again was wr our problem this year. Or was it play calling and Oline?

"Problems" tend to change each year.....

WR is due to be an issue with the manner in which we have failed to address it

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

http://www.rotoworld...er-list-13?pg=2

Wide Receivers

Dwayne Bowe
Mike Wallace
Greg Jennings
Wes Welker
Danny Amendola
Brian Hartline
Julian Edelman
Donnie Avery
Terrell Owens
Jerome Simpson
Kevin Ogletree
Randy Moss
Braylon Edwards
Donald Driver
Austin Collie
Josh Cribbs
Domenik Hixon
Ramses Barden
Jabar Gaffney
Brandon Stokley
Brandon Gibson
Plaxico Burress
Mohamed Massaquoi
Johnny Knox
Chad Johnson
Deion Branch
Mark Clayton
Donte' Stallworth
Brandon Tate
Ted Ginn
Devery Henderson
Louis Murphy
Derek Hagan
Chaz Schilens
Sammie Stroughter
Steve Smith (STL)
Devin Aromashodu
Adrian Arrington
Courtney Roby
Jason Hill
Greg Camarillo
Kassim Osgood
Roscoe Parrish
Big Mike Williams
Lee Evans
Micheal Spurlock
Mike Sims-Walker
Legedu Naanee
Ruvell Martin
Legedu Naanee


Wouldn't mind Brandon Tate....I know he hasn't performed up to potential but that guy is a physical specimen, and I think he could still break out.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:09 AM

I have said it a hundred times, we have no issue at WR! Stop with the damn "we need a WR #1" threads. Our WR's for the past 2 seasons have had above a 94% catch percentage and Lafell has one of the lowest drop pass percentagesin the league. His is better than SS.

We ha e other areas that has not been properly addressed in years. DT CB OG OT SS FS. ITS NOT THE OFFENSE THAT HAS HURT US THE PAST TWO SEASONS. Or are you people watching different games than me?


Anyone who has been watching the Panthers for the last several years can see that we need an heir-apparent to Steve Smith. Hell, Smitty has basically said it himself. When Smitty went down a couple of years back our offense went to hell. Now, of course Cam wasn't here, but still. What do you think would happen if Smitty went down again? We'd be stuck with LaFell and Murphy, and perhaps Gettis or Pilares (or somebody). They all have their moments, but not with any type of consistency. Smitty is the one that defenses really account for at all times, and he's the one that takes pressure away from Olsen and the others, allowing them to do their thing. He is our only proven down-field threat. The others are the supporting cast---which is great---but they have yet to prove that they can be that guy if Smitty gets injured. Moreover, the receiving threat would probably multiply by two if we could get another game-changer at WR because Smitty could move to the slot which would essentially make him a stone-cold assassin to opposing defenses. This is what most of us who are calling for a WR1 envision. So it's not really about percentages, it's about maximizing offensive potential.

BTW, we all know we need help at other positions, but this doesn't mean we don't really need another down-field legitimate threat at WR. It's all a balancing act, and addressing needs are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:38 AM

"Problems" tend to change each year.....

WR is due to be an issue with the manner in which we have failed to address it


It does tend to change and I would be on the WR bandwagon if

1. We didn't have so many young Wr under 25 already on the roster.

2. If we didn't have other glaring holes. Like Oline, DT, and Secondary.

3. If we didn't have a lot of weapons already in the pass game. Tolbert, Olsen, and the RB will get their touches. Which takes away from a 2nd We.

4. If I felt a guy out of this draft could start day one over Lafell or the other guys who have years in this system with Cam. If any of these guys were Megatron or AJ Green type. Where their presents alone effects the game. Then it would be a different story.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

I think Gettleman will restructure some of the contracts to help our cap problem and will cut a few that seems to stay on the IR. He will find a value pick on the FA list or make a trade for a WR.
Our biggest need is O-line and DT. If he is good at evaluating talent, he could find a jem in a later round in the draft. Its going to be fun again!

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

If you look at what Atlanta is doing on offense, don't you really see why some of us are putting a premium on obtaining another down-field threat?

Like I said before, the need for obtaining linemen does not make the need for obtaining a WR1 any less important, or vice versa. We need to find a way to do it all. Gett is going to have to evaluate each position and decide what's the best value and bang he can get for his buck (whether in FA, or the draft).

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:57 PM

Anyone who has been watching the Panthers for the last several years can see that we need an heir-apparent to Steve Smith. Hell, Smitty has basically said it himself. When Smitty went down a couple of years back our offense went to hell. Now, of course Cam wasn't here, but still. What do you think would happen if Smitty went down again? We'd be stuck with LaFell and Murphy, and perhaps Gettis or Pilares (or somebody). They all have their moments, but not with any type of consistency. Smitty is the one that defenses really account for at all times, and he's the one that takes pressure away from Olsen and the others, allowing them to do their thing. He is our only proven down-field threat. The others are the supporting cast---which is great---but they have yet to prove that they can be that guy if Smitty gets injured. Moreover, the receiving threat would probably multiply by two if we could get another game-changer at WR because Smitty could move to the slot which would essentially make him a stone-cold assassin to opposing defenses. This is what most of us who are calling for a WR1 envision. So it's not really about percentages, it's about maximizing offensive potential.

BTW, we all know we need help at other positions, but this doesn't mean we don't really need another down-field legitimate threat at WR. It's all a balancing act, and addressing needs are not necessarily mutually exclusive.


I agree with this. This offense would explode with a #1 wr and ol

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

passing league and we're here wanting a power run offense trying to say we're ok with who we got.

meh....

we've got to get more WR talent and we can't dick around hoping we can land the next victor cruz udfa.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

I ask again was wr our problem this year. Or was it play calling and Oline?


Completely correct and stopping the run at times.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

Completely correct and stopping the run at times.


That still doesn't answer that age old question about what will happen if Smitty goes down. We can, and will, do it all if we are to compete at the highest level sooner rather than later.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

Also even with Smitty we need a another touchdown scorer. Smitty and lafell both only had 4tds, olsen had 5tds. We need to score more points

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

If you look at what Atlanta is doing on offense, don't you really see why some of us are putting a premium on obtaining another down-field threat?

Like I said before, the need for obtaining linemen does not make the need for obtaining a WR1 any less important, or vice versa. We need to find a way to do it all. Gett is going to have to evaluate each position and decide what's the best value and bang he can get for his buck (whether in FA, or the draft).



Are you talking about the same Atlanta team that we should have beaten twice (and would have if we had a better secondary)?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:07 PM

Also even with Smitty we need a another touchdown scorer. Smitty and lafell both only had 4tds, olsen had 5tds. We need to score more points



We might have more scores if we use our RB like we did later in the season.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:11 PM

passing league and we're here wanting a power run offense trying to say we're ok with who we got.

meh....

we've got to get more WR talent and we can't dick around hoping we can land the next victor cruz udfa.



That's why there are 2 power running teams in the Superbowl.

Again i ask how many games did we lose because of our (like some of you would say) Sub Par wr corp?

Or was it a bad O-line and a OC with his head up his ass that lost us games?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

lol finally yes they have finally started making that stupid argument.

The reigning Super Bowl champions were the worst rushing team in the NFL last year facing off against a team who didn't fare much better.

The final four teams this year had two teams that orient more towards the pass, and two teams who failed miserably for years trying to ride to success and only succeeded once they had great QBs who threw the ball.

listen to the stories of todays game and i assure you it ain't got nothing to do with relic football. The 49ers replaced their starter mid year so they could give themselves a shot at this

Frankly I don't know why I'm even arguing this. Only the most mentally incompetent of posters would suggest we distance ourselves from a modern passing attack to revert to the same outdated offense that carried us to all those years of mediocrity. If you want to open yourself up to that kind of humiliation though then by all means


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