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#46 jayflip

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:52 PM

I might be one of the few who doesn't hate this hire. We'll see. We all hated Chud's read option mania, so this will keep all the things we liked about Chud's play book, but hopefully scale back all the things we hated.

Pound the ball. Pound the ball. Play action.

Beats read option, read option, 19 second developing WR routes with a shitty OLine.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:29 AM

I might be one of the few who doesn't hate this hire. We'll see. We all hated Chud's read option mania, so this will keep all the things we liked about Chud's play book, but hopefully scale back all the things we hated.

Pound the ball. Pound the ball. Play action.

Beats read option, read option, 19 second developing WR routes with a shitty OLine.


That offense you call "read option, read option, 19 second developing WR routes with a shitty OLine" was top 10 in both 2011 and 2012 according to football outsiders

so anything Shula's coming up with doesn't beat it unless the Panthers offense sustains that production with the Shula hire.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

That offense you call "read option, read option, 19 second developing WR routes with a shitty OLine" was top 10 in both 2011 and 2012 according to football outsiders

so anything Shula's coming up with doesn't beat it unless the Panthers offense sustains that production with the Shula hire.


That is true. I think most folks hope that Shula's offense is half as creative as Chud's was. Scoring points, effective in the redzone, all things Chud's offense was good at doing.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

On 1st and goal....Mike Shula will not call 3 straight passes.

Chud was too cute, too often. His biggest flaw.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

The biggest problem with Chud was that he was outsmarting himself and showing off for a head coach position. He was constantly looking for the big play (even with Cam in the own end zone). Shula will be more conservative, but I see that as a plus.
I expect the read option to be dramatically, and be use max of 5 times. I expect to see a more balanced offense and still use Cam's big arm. If you look at the offense of the end of the season, it was more conservative. More tight-end oriented, more short and medium passing. Long drives over 5 or 8 minutes. I think with a more conservative offense than Chud's and still taking shots when needed, the team will be in the playoffs.

The only thing that I wonder about is Shula's game planning. Can he exploit the opponent's weaknesses? Can he avoid being to predictable? (Chud couldn't in the beginning of the season).

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Here are a few positive thoughts...
  • He's not Jeff Davidson
  • We have Cam Newton under center and a stable of good running backs
  • The defense should be good enough that the Panthers won't need a top 10 offense to win.
  • We have Cam Newton
  • He likes running the ball
All that, and we have Cam Newton. So the offense, while it could have been unstoppable, should still be at least good.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Pound the ball. Pound the ball. Play action.



Somebody kill me.

#53 Gin and Juice

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Bruce Arians got run out of Cleveland after a pathetic 2003 year! He took the TE job with the Steelers and got promoted, been no looking back since

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:37 PM

Here are a few positive thoughts...

  • He's not Jeff Davidson
  • We have Cam Newton under center and a stable of good running backs
  • The defense should be good enough that the Panthers won't need a top 10 offense to win.
  • We have Cam Newton
  • He likes running the ball
All that, and we have Cam Newton. So the offense, while it could have been unstoppable, should still be at least good.


So you're saying the positives are

-at least he's not the most dismal hire in our history
-at least we have talented people ON the field
-at least we don't have to be elite
-likes running the ball? What? That would have been a sweet positive thirty years ago. We're trying to build an elite team not one that just gets by.


This is all just so depressing

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

Some guys here who have never seen a game called by him say he is awesome. That's enough for me!

#56 Blackmagic

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

Some guys here who have never seen a game called by him say he is awesome. That's enough for me!


I was putting on a positive spin. I don't understand why Jackson wasn't chosen. The only reason could be that Rivera didn't want someone that wasn't 'loyal'. Hue Jackson could take his job. Jackson was the most qualified. But maybe Shula learns some lessons and is improved as a playcaller.

#57 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

Better than Shurmur.


He took my answer.

But I'll add if Cam is comfortable with it; that's good enough for me

#58 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:24 PM

Some guys here who have never seen a game called by him say he is awesome. That's enough for me!


His QB in Tampa was Shaun king. No offense to King but he was no Cam

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

His QB in Tampa was Shaun king. No offense to King but he was no Cam



Why do people keep saying that? King was his QB 6 games out of 3 seasons.

Says a lot about how much people know before they offer opinions.

#60 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

At least we'll see Zod post more often.


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