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Liberal Facts vs Real Facts

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Don't believe the left put it quite like that before the election.

You lefties know for certain that you called it a lie to high heaven BEFORE the election. No free market nothing. All denials.

If it had been publicized that Jeeps would in fact be built somewhere else, then Ohio and Michigan would not have been so easy. Better to lie and win than admit the truth and take chances. Especially when the sheep that follow you don't care.

No matter how much they act like truth is important. Winning and agenda always trump

Well I certainly don't know what you are talking about in regards to the statement "you lefties." For your information I did not vote for Barack Obama nor any other democrat except someone I personally know. Just because I do not fully subscribe to your rhetoric does not mean I subscribe to theirs.

So are you saying this was what hinged the election in those states? Interesting, can you show some data or further expound on that point?

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You're right. You should go explain that nuanced answer to auto workers that would like to build those cars.

oh so mitt romney is now mr. auto industry and midwestern republicans who are otherwise hellbent on busting up the unions are suddenly in their corner? on the other hand, i'm sure auto workers would enjoy having their union castrated as part of an ideological circle jerk and their jobs shipped to right to work states.

do i have to explain again how expanding to a foreign market isn't the same thing as scaling down or outright shutting off US production which was the implication that the romney campaign was trying to make?

you know what the romney campaign meant. you know what message and boogie man they were trying to push. i refuse to believe you are that naive.

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Well I certainly don't know what you are talking about in regards to the statement "you lefties." For your information I did not vote for Barack Obama nor any other democrat except someone I personally know. Just because I do not fully subscribe to your rhetoric does not mean I subscribe to theirs.

So are you saying this was what hinged the election in those states? Interesting, can you show some data or further expound on that point?

"you lefties" goes for the bulk of the tbox posters. It also goes for the media who crowed about Romneys statement, but are silent on the Jeep issue. Not sure where you land typically, so if not a lefty, post not for you.

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"you lefties" goes for the bulk of the tbox posters. It also goes for the media who crowed about Romneys statement, but are silent on the Jeep issue. Not sure where you land typically, so if not a lefty, post not for you.

I took your post directed at me because of the quote. My mistake.

Where exactly do you stand on the issue? Should those Jeeps that aren't being sold in America have for sure been made in America? Or was it simply that you are saying the democrats lied about this to swing the states mentioned previously?

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That was actually the kind of thing I was really hoping for when I opened the thread. A quick laugh at someone else's foolish views. If you get what I mean.

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I took your post directed at me because of the quote. My mistake.

Where exactly do you stand on the issue? Should those Jeeps that aren't being sold in America have for sure been made in America? Or was it simply that you are saying the democrats lied about this to swing the states mentioned previously?

The second part. thus the truth part in thread title.

Politicians make laws that allow and almost demand that you import to stay in business. The media trashes Romney for using those laws, the glosses over or out and out lies about it when Romney says Jeeps will be made overseas.

Just the lying, but hey, like I mentioned, the Obama left does not care as long as they have power. Lying is no issue for the media either. They are there to fashion public opinion.

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The second part. thus the truth part in thread title.

Politicians make laws that allow and almost demand that you import to stay in business. The media trashes Romney for using those laws, the glosses over or out and out lies about it when Romney says Jeeps will be made overseas.

Just the lying, but hey, like I mentioned, the Obama left does not care as long as they have power. Lying is no issue for the media either. They are there to fashion public opinion.

Are you asserting this in fact won Obama the election in these states? Or are you just outraged by lying? Perhaps outraged is too strong a word? I would really like to understand your point of view.

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wait so this one article, this one collection of words, this one formation of thought in a universe of infinitely more, is the crisp, concise summation of "liberal facts"

it sure must be easy for you to make decisions stirs

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