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Which team does Cam go to after he forces his way out of this shitfest?

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Stay on topic people...

OK can anyone photoshop Cam in a Cowboys uniform?

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Mann..

What?

Have you not seen our past 2 seasons

Win meaningless games and his job is safe. Didn't Fox do it? So why can't Rivera get away with it

JR doesn't fire coaches mid-way remember? Well if there's nobody capable of taking over and hopefully leading us to idk a winning season the rest of the way, Rivera can maybe sneak past with that bullshit again, like Fox did

I do believe he's a goner either way, but look who's our owner so anything is damn possible

Rivera signed a 4 year deal, this is his 3rd. Knowing JR, he probably stay his 4th regardless. Lets not pay somebody who's no longer coaching here, OHH GODDDD

You're not getting the point. He's getting paid either way. Rivera's motivation is to win games, not to protect his job from a hypothetical coaching coup midway through the year. HE"S MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EITHER WAY.

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It's not and I don't.

If "turning away known talent for non-threatening schmucks" is bullshit to your mind, I guess you're going with "can't evaluate or assemble a staff to save his life which may be a contributing factor into his laughable performance as a head coach"?

I think he's in between a rock and a hard place. He's had to choose a shitty candidate because he knows that he has to win games. He chose keeping the same system in place and putting trust in Shula to not fug it up, in hopes that he can win games. Versus, bringing in a completely new offensive system (albeit run in the same general scheme) run by a completely new OC that has never worked with the team, knowing that he HAS TO WIN games right off the bat in order to keep his job long term. Which would you choose? It's not as easy as you might think.

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Good thing nobody is panicking, I was really concerned about folks overreacting to Shula becoming OC... phew!

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Rivera signed a 4 year deal, this is his 3rd. Knowing JR, he probably stay his 4th regardless. Lets not pay somebody who's no longer coaching here, OHH GODDDD

Dom Capers and George Seifert beg to differ.

Unless Rivera is due to make 6 million dollars next season the way Fox was it isn't a great comparison.

And BTW, Fox won some meaningless games... he also won some meaningful games that gave him equity. Including a Super Bowl appearance in his second season and a NFC championship game in his 4th.

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Floppin, I dig 99.9% of your posts. But these hires were the easy way out. The organization sees the all star games coming up and the draft after that, this hire and the promotions caused the least amount of ripples. 2013 is an audition year for the coaches and scouts and no coach worth his salt would come into this current Panther situation.

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I think he's in between a rock and a hard place. He's had to choose a shitty candidate because he knows that he has to win games. He chose keeping the same system in place and putting trust in Shula to not fug it up, in hopes that he can win games. Versus, bringing in a completely new offensive system (albeit run in the same general scheme) run by a completely new OC that has never worked with the team, knowing that he HAS TO WIN games right off the bat in order to keep his job long term. Which would you choose? It's not as easy as you might think.

I was supporting rr until you said you this. Can you say Mike Smith and the Falcon home field advantage in the NFC championship with the help of a first year oc?

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You're not getting the point. He's getting paid either way. Rivera's motivation is to win games, not to protect his job from a hypothetical coaching coup midway through the year. HE"S MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EITHER WAY.

Fired as a HC is not a good thing. If Rivera is fired as HC, what's the odds he'll be a HC somewhere else? I bet that money won't be the same being a coordinator again

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Dom Capers and George Seifert beg to differ.

Unless Rivera is due to make 6 million dollars next season the way Fox was it isn't a great comparison.

And BTW, Fox won some meaningless games... he also won some meaningful games that gave him equity. Including a Super Bowl appearance in his second season and a NFC championship game in his 4th.

Different JR and you know it

Fox wasn't fired cause he didn't want to pay him out. Hurney wasn't even under contract

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I think he's in between a rock and a hard place. He's had to choose a shitty candidate because he knows that he has to win games. He chose keeping the same system in place and putting trust in Shula to not fug it up, in hopes that he can win games. Versus, bringing in a completely new offensive system (albeit run in the same general scheme) run by a completely new OC that has never worked with the team, knowing that he HAS TO WIN games right off the bat in order to keep his job long term. Which would you choose? It's not as easy as you might think.

Ok. I'm pissed off, disappointed, tired, and being a dickhead and I'm sorry.

I agree he's in a bad spot. I disagree that JR/Gettleman wouldn't replace him mid-season should there be someone experienced on staff. I think Rivera chose the coaches he did only partly based on continuity and more on buying himself a full season of coaching. Skipper gives him a very safe "assistant HC" because nobody in their right mind is going to promote him to HC.

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Fired as a HC is not a good thing. If Rivera is fired as HC, what's the odds he'll be a HC somewhere else? I bet that money won't be the same being a coordinator again

I was talking about his current contract. Either way you're still not getting it.

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