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[nctarheel0619]

Huh.

Brees was traded, and Manning was released at age what 36..

Brees was not traded. He was a free agent that wasn't brought back by San Diego.

[TheRed]

JAKE DELHOMME HELLO PEOPLE

He was ran out of town... It was not of his own will.

[JawnyBlaze]

He is no longer rightfully called a "franchise QB" but Carson Palmer was considered one at the time he forced his way out of Cincy.

When is the last time a potentially elite QB had to endure years of losing? As long as we're talking in hypotheticals, let's go there too.

No one can say what will happen, but I don't see Cam staying a highly motivated, hard working QB for this organization if we don't have some success and if there is a perception that our FO is making a half-assed effort.

I don't think anyone outside of Oakland thought Palmer was a franchise QB when he forced his way out of Cincinnati.

Your point about Cam staying motivated is valid, but I don't think the team is so bad that it's going to demotivate him. As long as he's our QB we'll at least be right around middle of the pack, which will be just enough for him to keep trying harder to will us over the hump. And maybe one day he'll be able to do it.

[teeray]

Drew Brees and payton Manning off the top. Both had serious injury question marks though.

I thought of those two, but...

Drew Brees was all but tossed out of San Diego. Brees wanted to stay but they only offered him $2 million in salary and the rest was in incentives. San Diego was ready to move on to Rivers. That wasn't Brees saying he wanted to leave, that was San Diego asking him to leave.

Same with Peyton Manning. Peyton clearly wanted to stay in Indy, but he was released (or the Colts didn't pick up an option or something like that). It wasn't Peyton demanding out of Indy, it was Indy sending him on his way.

[Not-Awesomeness]

Huh.

Brees was traded, and Manning was released at age what 36.. I wouldn't call either willingly.

Brees was a FA and almost went to Miami. SD felt better about Rivers

[JawnyBlaze]

Brett Favre, Kurt Warner

I may be misremembering it, but I don't think Warner forced his way out of St. Louis. I think he got hurt or something and they replaced him. The circle of life and all that...

[Not-Awesomeness]

I don't think anyone outside of Oakland thought Palmer was a franchise QB when he forced his way out of Cincinnati.

The guy that cuts my hair in Tucson is a pastor and Raider fan. He told me when he heard the news, his reaction was "what the fug". lol. Didnt they give up a first rounder too? lol.

[TheRed]

Breesus was not re-signed by the Bolts.
Free Agent.

Brees was not traded. He was a free agent that wasn't brought back by San Diego.

Brees was a FA and almost went to Miami. SD felt better about Rivers

Oops, I swore he was but my memory has betrayed me.

Reading the huddle threads today have killed too many of my brain cells I guess.

[Not-Awesomeness]

I may be misremembering it, but I don't think Warner forced his way out of St. Louis. I think he got hurt or something and they replaced him. The circle of life and all that...

Yep, Marc Bulger came in. Same thing happenes to him in New York with Eli.

[JawnyBlaze]

A first and a second that could have become a first if Oakland made the playoffs

[teeray]

He is no longer rightfully called a "franchise QB" but Carson Palmer was considered one at the time he forced his way out of Cincy.

When is the last time a potentially elite QB had to endure years of losing? As long as we're talking in hypotheticals, let's go there too.

No one can say what will happen, but I don't see Cam staying a highly motivated, hard working QB for this organization if we don't have some success and if there is a perception that our FO is making a half-assed effort.

I will say this again, I love Cam Newton (that should be obvious by now) but he can do a A LOT more to help us win those one score games. And I think Cam would agree with me. I don't think he blames Ron or JR for these last two seasons. i think he blames himself first and foremost. Which is a good thing because he realizes that he can get better, and as a result the team will get better.

[JawnyBlaze]

Yep, Marc Bulger came in. Same thing happenes to him in New York with Eli.

Yea in NY they realized he can't play for poo without two elite WRs

[Gabeking]

The better question should be "when was the last time a franchise qb entering their prime left for another team?" And Eli doesn't count

[JawnyBlaze]

I will say this again, I love Cam Newton (that should be obvious by now) but he can do a A LOT more to help us win those one score games. And I think Cam would agree with me. I don't think he blames Ron or JR for these last two seasons. i think he blames himself first and foremost. Which is a good thing because he realizes that he can get better, and as a result the team will get better.

The only close game you can even come close to putting on Cam is Seattle and even that one I have to split with Chud because I don't agree with that lower percentage play at that point in the game where they were.

Before you cite the fumble in Atl, that's just the sort of thing that happens. It didn't end our chances of running out the clock, Rivera refusing to let him fall forward on 4th and 1 and Nakamura take full blame for that game.

[Kevin Greene]

I may be misremembering it, but I don't think Warner forced his way out of St. Louis. I think he got hurt or something and they replaced him. The circle of life and all that...

The Op didn't ask who forced their way out of town:

When was the last time a franchise QB willingly left a team?