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#1 SZ James (banned)

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:09 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2...tive/index.html

"As the nation celebrates King's national holiday Monday, a new battle has erupted over his legacy. Some conservatives are saying it's time for them to reclaim the legacy of King, whose message of self-help, patriotism and a colorblind America, they say, was 'fundamentally conservative.'"

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:20 AM

he was conservative in many many ways. the mere fact a group is trying to "claim" his stance says enough.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:20 AM

I agree.

Dr King appealed to all people of all political ideologies. He wanted to bring us all together, not divide us into opposing groups like our government likes to do.

America will never be a great country again until we quit all of this Democrat-Republican bullshit, and unite as Americans and demand political leaders that will fight for us instead of selling us out to the global banks while we squabble among ourselves.

RIP, may your message live on, and hopefully one day, we will listen.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:23 AM

yeah that's a tough one. my understanding (which is admittedly limited) is that he was conservative in that he was religious and a lot of his rhetoric does reflect (on the surface) what modern conservatism claims as its ideological base, but his ideas at the time were considered radical and extremely liberal by the establishment of the day, so i doubt too many people labeled him a conservative back then.

i'm actually very interested in hearing responses on this.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

personally. i think if he were alive, we might be surprised at his thoughts on things.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:36 AM

here's conservative op-ed bastion TownHall.com's take on why MLK is a conservative

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here is an article on about.com (lol) that's basically a selection of MLK quotes and extended dialogue on various issues that are considered philosophically liberal and as such paint him in that light.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:36 AM

Conservatives have a habit of glorifying long dead radicals who are no longer any threat.

Take Jesus for example.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

Conservatives have a habit of glorifying long dead radicals who are no longer any threat.

Take Jesus for example.


part of vying for political control is successfully getting voter blocs to identify their ideological iconography with your party in one way or another. i always hate it when people say "well both sides are equally guilty" ...but in this case everyone does it.

the republicans just happen to be a more laughable example in this case because they've had such an inexplicable monopoly on christianity for so long.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:12 AM

All you have to do is look at the conservative contemporaries of people like our Founding Fathers, Lincoln, TR, FDR, JFK and MLK. If you do, you'll quickly realize that conservatives were adamantly opposed to every one of these forward thinking individuals (for their time) that are today considered icons of American History. Conservatives by their very nature have to look backwards for legitimacy. They are forced to coopt previous generations' liberals because their own political leaders advocated for the wrong side of every important historical issue.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:47 AM

http://academic.uday...ds/affirm25.htm

In the last years of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s life, many mainstream journalists and conservative politicians treated him with fear and derision. In 1967, Life magazine (4/21/67) dubbed King's prophetic anti";war address "demagogic slander" and "a script for Radio Hanoi." Even years later, Ronald Reagan described King as a near";Communist.

Today, however, a miracle is taking place: Suddenly, King is a conservative. By virtue of a snippit from one 1963 address"a single phrase about "the content of our character""King is the most oft";quoted opponent of affirmative action in America today.


The exploitation of King's name, the distortion of his teachings for political gain, is an ugly development. The term "affirmative action" did not come into currency until after King's death "but it was King himself, as chair of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, who initiated the first successful national affirmative action campaign: "Operation Breadbasket."


King was well aware of the arguments used against affirmative action policies. As far back as 1964, he was writing in Why We Can't Wait: "Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the ***** is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The ***** should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."

King supported affirmative action";type programs because he never confused the dream with American reality. As he put it, "A society that has done something special against the ***** for hundreds of years must now do something special for the *****" to compete on a just and equal basis (quoted in Let the Trumpet Sound, by Stephen Oates).


In a 1965 Playboy interview, King compared affirmative action";style policies to the GI Bill: "Within common law we have ample precedents for special compensatory programs.... And you will remember that America adopted a policy of special treatment for her millions of veterans after the war."


Like Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, King viewed affirmative action as a means to achieving a truly egalitarian and color";blind society. To destroy the means, the gradual process by which equality is achieved, destroys the dream itself. And the use of King's name in this enterprise only adds derision to destruction.


you see conservatives NEED to depict mlk as conservative because if he's not conservative then he must be liebral and if he's liebral then he must be bad and if he's bad then they must hate him and if they must hate him then they hate one of the leading civil rights figures of american history.

he was pretty progressive for his time, though he still got caught up in stupid religious bullshit

oh and btw he was pro union

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"He was against all policies based on race," says Peter Schramm, a conservative historian.


huh it turns out being objectively wrong about history doesn't disqualify you from calling yourself a historian

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:51 AM

Conservatism (Latin: conservare, "to retain") is a political and social philosophy that promotes retaining traditional social institutions. A person who follows the philosophies of conservatism is referred to as a traditionalist or conservative.


yeah mlk was all about the status quo right guys?

"It didn't cost the nation a penny to open lunch counters. It didn't cost the nation a penny to give us the right to vote," he said. "But it will cost the nation billions to feed and house all of its citizens. The country needs a radical redistribution of wealth."


-noted conservative martin luther king jr.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:55 AM

We must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered.


Try saying that at the next GOP convention.