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[King Taharqa]

Now to actually talk about King Taharqa's question, I think the reason that you don't hear many people bringing up Caldwell is the fact that he has only served up to this point as a member of Tony Dungy's staff for 10 years and never in a coordinator role. His head coaching experience prior to working with one of the greatest QBs of all time, was a 26-63 record and one winning season at Wake Forest in 8 years. Yeah, he got a raw deal from Indy last year, kind of like John Fox in 2010.

But as to why he hasn't been hired yet, he has only been an offensive coordinator for 6 games, one of which was a meaning less game in which all of the backups played (Week 17 against Cincinnati). The offense before the playoffs only had one truly great performance (against the Giants to the tune of 33 points) but that was the week after the Falcons blew them out of the water. Most teams were hiring for their head coach right after the season, before the offense really started getting into synch like they have the last 3 weeks.

If he wins the Superbowl, and does a good job as the OC next year, then I don't think there's a question that he will get another look.

Fair enough. Why do you think there are so few black OCs and QB coaches in NFL history? Why are those jobs EXCLUSIVELY white? And do you think thats impacted peoples reluctance to believe in black QBs so long? Or how to best use them being OCs and QB coaches are pivotal to a QB? Do you think that could possibly put them at a disadvantage on a social level in comparison to white QBs?

[TheOldBreed]

Ask yourself this: Why aren't there any white RBs or Corners?

Take that same logic

Apply it to the question: Why aren't there any black head coaches or OCs?

Done

Accidentally thumbs up your post when I should have given a thumbs down. If you are attempting to imply that there are not any black head coaches or OCs because of a lack of ability then you are dead wrong. In fact your logic is beyond stupid. At one point, the majority of RBs and corners were white. And now (mainly because of performance) there are few to none. At no point in NFL history have a majority of the coaches or OCs been black. So try again please.

[TheOldBreed]

Racism apparently can only be inflicted upon black people.

I actually saw an article that said Rivera didn't count as a minority head coach....why? He's a minority and a head coach. Seemed pretty odd.

The worst racism that exists in america today is black racism towards latinos.

and KT, you've been looking for some profound reason that blacks have been persecuted over the years and it's an obvious answer that is the sole motivator for most men regardless of race....

....penis envy.

Let me go a little off topic to say are you fuging kidding me? I almost fell over from laughing. In the Marine Corps I observed that many latinos were extremely prejudiced against blacks; well, latinos all seemed to universally hate Mexicans to some degree and a good many of them as a whole did not like blacks that much. But yeah, the rest of your post is pretty much bs as well.

[Zcustom]

Let me go a little off topic to say are you fuging kidding me? I almost fell over from laughing. In the Marine Corps I observed that many latinos were extremely prejudiced against blacks; well, latinos all seemed to universally hate Mexicans to some degree and a good many of them as a whole did not like blacks that much. But yeah, the rest of your post is pretty much bs as well.

So you're telling me this wasn't the thread for ridiculously absurd posts.

Sonofa.... I've got to figure out this internet thingy

[Dingo_ate_Babies]

Accidentally thumbs up your post when I should have given a thumbs down. If you are attempting to imply that there are not any black head coaches or OCs because of a lack of ability then you are dead wrong. In fact your logic is beyond stupid. At one point, the majority of RBs and corners were white. And now (mainly because of performance) there are few to none. At no point in NFL history have a majority of the coaches or OCs been black. So try again please.

Ah I was waiting for a response such as this.

I wasn't implying anything, but pointing out the double-standard.

We assume that there are no white RBs/CBs, strictly because of lack of performance.

Then we assume that theres a lack of black offensive coaches, mainly because of racism.

Just pointing out the double standard.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

Sometimes people are better coordinators than coaches. It is weird that he is the only African American OC though

I'm not sure he's ever even been to africa. He's not African American. He was born in raised in New Jersey.

[Panthro]

You never attended UNC but consider yourself a fan

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

You never attended UNC but consider yourself a fan

I never went to any college. My family is pretty much all UNC fans many have gone there and we have been for over 50 years. How many times do we have to have this discussion? Get off your high horse.

EDIT: Forgive me for not jumping the bandwagon cause i've been a UNC fan since i was born.

[Panthro]

Well that proves my point...

I think you are as much a UNC fan as you think Caldwell is an African American

Next

[Dxterity]

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

Well that proves my point...

I think you are as much a UNC fan as you think Caldwell is an African American

Next

You are retarded.

[Panthro]

That's insulting to the mentally handicapped

[AppStatePanther]

Its funny you bring up Bob. You and the others called him a racist for having too many blacks in the front office and having black head coaches. Now youre playing apologist for a league that has to force itself to interview people who arent white. Bob didnt meed a Rooney Rule to hire LB, and Jordan didnt need one to hire Dunlap.

First off I never called him racist. You can use what little bit of brain power you have budgeted for logical thinking to look up my posts about bob johnson. It won't take long, I don't have any. "you and the others"? what others? are you saying me and anybody who has disagreed with you that bob johnson was a good owner? are you saying that I'm racist because I don't think that anybody in their right mind has been fooled by your threads and posts. We all know where every single one of your posts come from.

on to the Bob hiring LB. LB has the best winning percentage for the entire bobcats history. More importantly he wasn't the one who wanted him anyways. Jordan had pursued LB for two years we just had to wait a year (Ham Biscuit or Sam Vincent) I liked Bernie and I like Paul Silas when he was our coach and the hornets coach.

I can agree with you that I think there is something wrong with the NFL owners hiring practices and its shameful that we must apply a form of affrimative action. It shouldn't be necessary but just because this year the NFL didn't meet the quota of african american hires to appease to you or anyone else for that matter doesn't mean the NFL is "40 years behind" or a "Plantation atmosphere".

I know you are fighting for "the cause" and by all means do it. Just realize that these are privately owned corporations and by law should be able to do what they want to better there business. Your hero felt the same way and he had every right to do so.

[BigSyke]

no the real question is where are all the BLACK OWNERS....think big my friend.........

other than that this thread is funny....sbvg posting random pics lol

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

I like raspberries.