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[quote]ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A 15-year-old boy remained in custody Sunday night as detectives tried to piece together what led to the shooting of his parents and three of their children who were found dead in a New Mexico home.
The teenager was arrested on murder and other charges in connection with the shootings, which happened Saturday night at the home in a rural area southwest of downtown Albuquerque, said Lt. Sid Covington, a Bernalillo County sheriff's spokesman.
Authorities identified the victims late Sunday as Greg Griego, 51, his wife Sara Griego, 40, and three of their children: a 9-year-old boy, Zephania Griego, and daughters Jael Griego, 5, and Angelina Griego, 2.[/quote]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/20/albuquerque-shooting-2013-new-mexico-teenager_n_2516424.html

This happens in other countries all the time, though. Doesn't matter what the statistics say.

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No kidding

[url="http://www.lvrj.com/news/nevada-assemblyman-brooks-arrested-charged-with-threat-against-assembly-speaker-187629061.html"]http://www.lvrj.com/news/nevada-assemblyman-brooks-arrested-charged-with-threat-against-assembly-speaker-187629061.html[/url]

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Still blaming the tools and never the person.

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The very nature of our modern society is, if [i][u]any[/u][/i] product poses a threat to the health or safety of an individual, that product is recalled, modified, redesigned, or restricted by law. No effort is spared to reduce/eliminate the possibility unintended injury or death. That is [i][u]any[/u][/i] product other than firearms. That is strange, because firearms advocates, more than anyone else, should appreciate what these killing tools are capable of and should only want them in the hands of authorized and properly trained owners. At this point anything and everything should be up for discussion in an attempt to reduce the carnage. If firearm advocates do not get out in front of this issue with realistic solutions and tangible results, the problem will eventually be taken out of their hands.

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[quote name='Kurb' timestamp='1358802918' post='2109185']
Still blaming the tools and never the person.
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i don't think anyone (with a brain) is blaming the inanimate object. the blame is on the structures that allow these sorts of things to happen with such frequency. identifying a problem and its extensions =/= crediting agency to an inanimate object. i think it's necessary to come to terms with that fact before any kind of rational dialogue can be opened on the subject

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So what you want is a nanny state??

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[quote name='Toolbox' timestamp='1358807705' post='2109307']
So what you want is a nanny state??
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I am sure three year olds say the same thing when mom prevents them from drinking the drain cleaner.

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[quote name='Toolbox' timestamp='1358807705' post='2109307']
So what you want is a nanny state??
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do you consider mandatory car inspections, registrations, and insurance to be characteristics of a nanny state?

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What are the "guns don't kill people" people proposing how to go about this matter?

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[quote name='PhillyB' timestamp='1358806748' post='2109285']


i don't think anyone (with a brain) is blaming the inanimate object. the blame is on the structures that allow these sorts of things to happen with such frequency. identifying a problem and its extensions =/= crediting agency to an inanimate object. i think it's necessary to come to terms with that fact before any kind of rational dialogue can be opened on the subject
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We must read different tinder boxes

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[quote name='Sheikh Zula' timestamp='1358810709' post='2109382']
What are the "guns don't kill people" people proposing how to go about this matter?
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I know this is crazy, but maybe if you have a psycho 15 yr old son you should make sure he can't get to your guns?



Nah fug that, lets ban some poo, that will make it all better and all problems will go away.

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[quote name='Kurb' timestamp='1358802918' post='2109185']
Still blaming the tools and never the person.
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Betting this kid was on the same meds Rodeo has pointed out in other threads.

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