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Sooo..you are telling me nobody wanted Jim Caldwell?


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#71 Blackmagic

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

He had the shittiest Oline last year that I have ever seen because of injuries to 4 out 5 starting olineman. Both tackles, center and a gaurd. Andy Reid is a phenomenal coach.


The o-line was injured last year, but what about the year before? They had one of the best o-lines, but didn't do anything. I think that they led in sacks, but no playoffs. Reid fired Castillo, but he was a genius compared to Bowles. In the beginning of the year his defense wasn't the problem, but his offense due to the o-line and at the end, both were abysmal.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:41 AM

If David Shaw left Stanford, I'm sure he would have gotten a job. In fact, if that happened and I was Jerry, I would have let Rivera go and went hard after Shaw. With all that said, I'm tired of hearing about this issue. The Rooney Rule requires that one minority HC prospect must be interviewed, but usually we always take it to mean a black man. Then when no minority HC prospects get hired, what we really mean is no black HC was hired. Why is it the black ethnicity is always at the forefront of these things? I don't hear no one arguing for asian HCs or hispanic HC prospects. I'm just tired of hearing that black people are always held back in this regard. I also hate using the terms majority and minority.


Not to be a hard ass (since later I heard you say, "there's only one race", and your pet peeve on "black candidates"), but since you brought it up:

"Hispanic or Latino" is not a race. It's a culture, ethnicity or Geography. I know some people don't want to hear that. But it's not. You have black Latino's, White/European Latinos, Native American's, or a mixture of any of the above. And some countries (like Peru and Ecuador), even have some Asian influences, along with the others.

It all depends on what country they're from, and what strata they occupy. They're 'Black Latino's for example. And they are identified as such in their own countries when they take a census. Mexico, is mainly native American, with a small but sizable European based wealthy class and political elite.

I get your point though. :D Nonetheless, the majority of players and Front Office Personnel in the NFL are composed of black and whites, and that's why you'll hear people question or complain, when no qualified black candidates are hired for certain FO positions. It's a numbers vs rejection game.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

I remember Caldwell single handedly destroying the Colts perfect season and ultimately losing the team

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

I remember Caldwell single handedly destroying the Colts perfect season and ultimately losing the team


From what I understood, that was a Bill Polian Idea, straight from the top.

I'm not getting into the Caldwell argument though.

Just an FYI

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:08 AM

Not to be a hard ass (since later I heard you say, "there's only one race", and your pet peeve on "black candidates"), but since you brought it up:

"Hispanic or Latino" is not a race. It's a culture, ethnicity or Geography. I know some people don't want to hear that. But it's not. You have black Latino's, White/European Latinos, Native American's, or a mixture of any of the above. And some countries (like Peru and Ecuador), even have some Asian influences, along with the others.

It all depends on what country they're from, and what strata they occupy. They're 'Black Latino's for example. And they are identified as such in their own countries when they take a census. Mexico, is mainly native American, with a small but sizable European based wealthy class and political elite.

I get your point though. :D Nonetheless, the majority of players and Front Office Personnel in the NFL are composed of black and whites, and that's why you'll hear people question or complain, when no qualified black candidates are hired for certain FO positions. It's a numbers vs rejection game.



American Indian are considered a race both politically and scientifically.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

American Indian are considered a race both politically and scientifically.


Isn't that what I meant when I said "Native American"?? :o

They sure ain't Europeans.

As far as the other things you said: That's another story (DNA, sublades History, Pre-history, Anthropology Out Of Africa Movement/Homo Sapien Sapien excursion-continental population, etc.). LOL

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

This is just awful. Everybody take a lap.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

Let's see...He was the colts HC. He had Peyton, he was successful. Peyton injured....the whole team turns to poo. Caldwell leaves...new management comes in and they draft #1 and end 11-5. Caldwell is an awful HC dude.


Many believe, me included, that the last 3 games of Jim Caldwell's HC at Indy were actually coached by Peyton Manning. (2-1 as a HC?)

Manning had the headset on and could be seen talking into it when the Offense was on the team. Along with always being involved during the Offensive Time outs.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

This is just awful. Everybody take a lap.


This is like the 4th thread that has turned into an anthropological debate in the past week.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

This is like the 4th thread that has turned into an anthropological debate in the past week.

the huddle needs a new forum.


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