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Rivera talked to Turner: [b]Rivera said Tuesday he reached out to Norv Turner about becoming his offensive coordinator, but the wheels were already in motion that would take Turner to Cleveland as part of Rob Chudzinski’s Browns’ staff.[/b]

Rivera and Chudzinski worked for Turner in San Diego before coming to Charlotte two years ago. When Chudzinski left for his first head-coaching job in Cleveland two weeks ago, Rivera called Turner, who had been fired after six seasons in San Diego.

But Chudzinski and the Browns were one step ahead.

[b]“He and I did talk. We talked about the opening. One thing he told me was he had a lot to think about,” Rivera after a Senior Bowl practice. “I had heard that (Browns CEO) Joe Banner called him directly during that whole process. That’s the hard part because you don’t know when or what went on in that conversation.”[/b]

Turner ended up going to Cleveland and was joined by his son, Scott, who left his job as the Panthers’ offensive quality control assistant to become the Browns’ receivers coach.

[b]“Obviously, they had a jump on us and probably had already laid the groundwork, as far as I knew,” Rivera said.[/b][/quote]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/01/22/3805674/source-panthers-to-promote-ken.html#storylink=cpy

The way I read it, this sounds like it was planned before Chud's initial interview, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Yea, the Chud hire makes a lot more sense when you factor in Norv as OC. I bet he went into that interview saying "If you hire me as HC, I'll bring Norv Turner as my OC". Hell, it worked. Can't blame him.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I hope the Browns crash and burn while Rivera leads the Panthers to the playoffs. Maybe I'm just vindictive though -_-
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I dont think the browns need any bad ju-ju from us here to suck....Brandon Weeden (aka Chris Weinke 2.0), will give them all the suckitude they need. Chuds in for a rude awakening going from Cam to Weeden.
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fuging chud

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This is a sign of our turning point. Cleveland is now taking OUR has-been rejects. We have arrived, gentlemen.
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sounds like rivera was out-coached.

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[quote name='UNCrules2187' timestamp='1358956099' post='2111754']
I don't know about anyone else, but I hope the Browns crash and burn while Rivera leads the Panthers to the playoffs. Maybe I'm just vindictive though -_-
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Naaw your good.

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[quote name='Khaki Lackey' timestamp='1358956546' post='2111760']
This is a sign of our turning point. Cleveland is now taking OUR has-been rejects. We have arrived, gentlemen.
[/quote]chud and norv both chose to go to cleveland instead of being here.

not sure how that's them taking our rejects.
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Chud and Norv have been talking and planning that all season that's why the offense sputtered until the plan was worked out.

I don't believe for one second chud didn't know he had a hc job lined up.
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It sounds like we were caught pretty off-guard by the Chud hiring. With it happening so fast, it seems like Chud had already set up a direct line to Norv before he was even hired. Which is pretty lame... We should have just fired him immediately and started talking to Norv before anything else could happen.

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[quote name='hepcat' timestamp='1358955810' post='2111750']
Yea, the Chud hire makes a lot more sense when you factor in Norv as OC. I bet he went into that interview saying "If you hire me as HC, I'll bring Norv Turner as my OC". Hell, it worked. Can't blame him.
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better plan than rivera's.

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Why didn't Chud attempt to snatch Shula away with him?

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[quote name='Ship' timestamp='1358957095' post='2111772']
It sounds like we were caught pretty off-guard by the Chud hiring. With it happening so fast, it seems like Chud had already set up a direct line to Norv before he was even hired. Which is pretty lame... We should have just fired him immediately and started talking to Norv before anything else could happen.
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I wouldn't say it was lame, it's business and proprietary to have your ducks lined up before you plunge.

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1358956990' post='2111770']
Chud and Norv have been talking and planning that all season that's why the offense sputtered until the plan was worked out.

I don't believe for one second chud didn't know he had a hc job lined up.
[/quote]he was their 11th choice.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1358957198' post='2111774']
Why didn't Chud attempt to ****** Shula away with him?
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apparently he's smarter than that.

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But got the job, that's just propaganda. Chud had the job from the start of the season.

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1358957323' post='2111779']
But got the job, that's just propaganda. Chud had the job from the start of the season.
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lol ok....

every coach they offered the job to turned them down or ran away. i'm sure that went just according to plan.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1358957461' post='2111780']

lol ok....

every coach they offered the job to turned them down or ran away. i'm sure that went just according to plan.
[/quote]yea It's simple, take all of the control so they can run. Even Rivera isn't dumb enough to believe that's a coincidence.

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Chud screwed us again...

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1358957592' post='2111783']
yea It's simple, take all of the control so they can run. Even Rivera isn't dumb enough to believe that's a coincidence.
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[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PeT-NMASicc/UFC7IpW_EzI/AAAAAAAAC3c/lHvVCujeN3I/s1600/Nicolas-Sarkozy-laughing.gif[/img]

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1358957735' post='2111786']

[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PeT-NMASicc/UFC7IpW_EzI/AAAAAAAAC3c/lHvVCujeN3I/s1600/Nicolas-Sarkozy-laughing.gif[/img]
[/quote]ok, so you think the CEO really called norv, if you buy that then that's what's funny.?

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that you think the plan was to act like they got rejected by 10 other candidates before asking chud to come in for an interview.

that is high comedy right there.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1358956810' post='2111767']
chud and norv both chose to go to cleveland instead of being here.

not sure how that's them taking our rejects.
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In regard to Norv, sure. In regard to Chud? I guarantee you there were more people in NC that wanted Chud to go to the Browns than there were in Cleveland.

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[quote name='Ship' timestamp='1358957095' post='2111772']
It sounds like we were caught pretty off-guard by the Chud hiring. With it happening so fast, it seems like Chud had already set up a direct line to Norv before he was even hired. Which is pretty lame... [b]We should have just fired him immediately and started talking to Norv before anything else could happen.[/b]
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Agreed.

JR should have had the guts to fire Rivera.

And Rivera should have had the guts to fire Chud, if he--himself wasn't fired by JR.

However, Chud leaves; secures a deal with Cleveland to hire him if he brings Norv Turner along; taking him out of the running for OC at Carolina. Chud was one step ahead of Rivera all along.

Now, if Rivera really considered Norv in the first place (and not always wanted Shula), he should have fired Chud for mis-management of the offense the first half of the year, as well as his poor situational play calling through out the year--in the first place--right after the season ended.

When will Rivera ever learn?? He just bragged on the radio yesterday that he learned to stop being passive after the 8th game of the season. Well, if he really considered Chud as OC after he left, then he should have pulled the trigger against Chud's frequent Mad Scientist Experiments during the 2012 season all along!

I'm content with Shula. But slow you blow, if you're first choice was Turner, Ron!

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