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#1 Sod

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:29 PM

I assume Gettle has the power come draft time but I wonder how much pull Rivera will have. Reason I bring it up is I have seen a lot who say DT is a slow position to develop. If that's so I wouldn't think Rivera would want to draft one since he needs production next season

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

I'm pretty certain Gettleman will have the final word. He'll likely get input from the scouting staff, they'll rank prospects, then work with Rivera and the position coaches to evaluate fits. Ultimately though, it's going to be Gettleman's call.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

Gettleman is not on any hot seat and is building his team. He will be building for the long run. Thank God.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:26 PM

Drafting DT in the 1st round is foolish....Goooooo Lions!!!!!!!!

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:30 PM

I actually like this duo of Gettleman and Rivera. I think they both know talent pretty damn well. And know what we need to be successful. This past draft was one of the best. And i think Rivera had a lot to do with that.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

This is Gettleman's team of the future. Its Rivera for one year to boom or bust.
Gettleman will be drafting his players for the future and what he sees as needs. Rivera will have to play with Gettleman's cards. Rivera has no say in this Draft and beyond.

#7 panthers55

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:27 PM

This is Gettleman's team of the future. Its Rivera for one year to boom or bust.
Gettleman will be drafting his players for the future and what he sees as needs. Rivera will have to play with Gettleman's cards. Rivera has no say in this Draft and beyond.

Rivera is not worried about being fired after 2013, no coach ever is. He believes his team is going to get to the playoffs and be successful. That is the mindset that every coach has to have in order to get the players to buy into his system. So he is going to help find the best players he can assuming he is going to be here long term. He will be an integral part of this draft and the next. Once we have back to back winning seasons and he gets an extension he will be here for a while.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

Rivera is not worried about being fired after 2013, no coach ever is. He believes his team is going to get to the playoffs and be successful. That is the mindset that every coach has to have in order to get the players to buy into his system. So he is going to help find the best players he can assuming he is going to be here long term. He will be an integral part of this draft and the next. Once we have back to back winning seasons and he gets an extension he will be here for a while.


I want to believe the same thing, but it aint.
Everyone knows Gettleman is going to draft who he wants for the future. Gettleman's job is safe for the next 4 years. Rivera's job is on the line. Sure Rivera will have input on who to take, but 99% of the decision is Gettleman's.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

I assure you it's a process.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

I want to believe the same thing, but it aint.
Everyone knows Gettleman is going to draft who he wants for the future. Gettleman's job is safe for the next 4 years. Rivera's job is on the line. Sure Rivera will have input on who to take, but 99% of the decision is Gettleman's.

Gettleman knows talent but Rivera knows what he wants to do with the team and the type of players he needs to run his system. They will work together to figure out who they want. Gettleman will get the final word I suspect but he is too smart to operate in a vacuum and not get plenty of input from his coach and the scouting pros.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:03 AM

Gettleman knows talent but Rivera knows what he wants to do with the team and the type of players he needs to run his system. They will work together to figure out who they want. Gettleman will get the final word I suspect but he is too smart to operate in a vacuum and not get plenty of input from his coach and the scouting pros.



No one really even know if Rivera is Gettleman's long term answer. Yes, he looked like he liked Rivera at his press conference. And yes, Im sure JR wanted a GM that wanted to stick with Rivera, but I guarantee that Gettleman is giving 1 year to prove hes the answer. If he start the season like how he did the past two seasons, Gettleman isnt going to hesitate pulling the trigger on him.

Rivera will get some say on who to draft but Gettleman will make the final say on all the players in the upcoming draft.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:10 AM

Rivera is finishing his contract unless there is a hc staff that can't be looked over.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

No one really even know if Rivera is Gettleman's long term answer. Yes, he looked like he liked Rivera at his press conference. And yes, Im sure JR wanted a GM that wanted to stick with Rivera, but I guarantee that Gettleman is giving 1 year to prove hes the answer. If he start the season like how he did the past two seasons, Gettleman isnt going to hesitate pulling the trigger on him.

Rivera will get some say on who to draft but Gettleman will make the final say on all the players in the upcoming draft.

No one knows if Rivera is the long term answer. He will decide that based on what he does with the team. If he starts out 2-8 again this year of course he is gone. But I don't think that is going to happen. And as long as Rivera is the coach he and Gettleman will be working together to make the team a success. After all if Rivera is a success then Gettleman will get much of the credit. He is going to be Rivera's biggest supporter and do everything he can to ensure he is successful. If things go sour he will cross that bridge when he has to. But guys at this level expect success.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

i am expecting to see a couple things in the first round.

1) BPA that is an area of need and someone that can hit the ground running and not look a whole lot like a rookie. i don't expect a project in the first round. maybe in the second,but not the first. that might rule out one of the more difficult positions to vet the hang of, like OG, OT, & DT. unless gettleman can see something special that others miss, most or all of those guys at those positions are going to be gone by #14.

2) from a balance POV, first round offense, second defense. not ruling out the possibility of defense in the first, but i think the board will be more heavily weighted on the offensive side.

with those two things in mind I'm guessing the first pick will be WR or, if a defensive pick, a DB....probably FS if i was forced to choose.

i see gettleman working with rivera, regardless of rivera being on a short leash. its in gettlemans best interest for rivera to do well so he doesn't have to go through the headache of trying to find a new coaching staff...unless he's just looking for an excuse to get his own guy, which i doubt is the case. he's going to be focused on the long term, which will be the focus after the first round, but the first will be more of an immediate impact kind of guy that will give rivera a leg up in the season.

he'll probably do some restructuring, rearranging, and releasing of players,contracts, and cap space to get vet guys who can step in and be solid at a low cost to fill in holes that don't get the immediate fixes in the draft. I'd look for affordable short term 1-2 year deals with older players like ron & dwan mainly to buy some time until a better long term solution could be found. i would also look for a couple of those guys to be the result of draft day trades giving up later draft picks for guys with decent contracts.

at least that's just what I'm thinking.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

A lot of our draft strategy will be determined by what we do to get under the cap and what (if anything) we do in FA. I know we'll sign some FA's, but it may not be until post June 1 when we can free up some more space if desired.

My gut feel is WR/OL in the first two rounds. Gettleman knows Rivera is a whiz with D, so we can probably get by with a bit less talent on that side of the ball. Maybe a vet signing at DT (1 tech), and bringing back Dwan will address that part. As far as safety goes, it would not surprise me at all if we start the year the way we finished, with Godfrey at FS and Campbell at SS. I think Campbell is going to be a player that surprises a lot of us.


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