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#13 panthers55

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

No one really even know if Rivera is Gettleman's long term answer. Yes, he looked like he liked Rivera at his press conference. And yes, Im sure JR wanted a GM that wanted to stick with Rivera, but I guarantee that Gettleman is giving 1 year to prove hes the answer. If he start the season like how he did the past two seasons, Gettleman isnt going to hesitate pulling the trigger on him.

Rivera will get some say on who to draft but Gettleman will make the final say on all the players in the upcoming draft.

No one knows if Rivera is the long term answer. He will decide that based on what he does with the team. If he starts out 2-8 again this year of course he is gone. But I don't think that is going to happen. And as long as Rivera is the coach he and Gettleman will be working together to make the team a success. After all if Rivera is a success then Gettleman will get much of the credit. He is going to be Rivera's biggest supporter and do everything he can to ensure he is successful. If things go sour he will cross that bridge when he has to. But guys at this level expect success.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

i am expecting to see a couple things in the first round.

1) BPA that is an area of need and someone that can hit the ground running and not look a whole lot like a rookie. i don't expect a project in the first round. maybe in the second,but not the first. that might rule out one of the more difficult positions to vet the hang of, like OG, OT, & DT. unless gettleman can see something special that others miss, most or all of those guys at those positions are going to be gone by #14.

2) from a balance POV, first round offense, second defense. not ruling out the possibility of defense in the first, but i think the board will be more heavily weighted on the offensive side.

with those two things in mind I'm guessing the first pick will be WR or, if a defensive pick, a DB....probably FS if i was forced to choose.

i see gettleman working with rivera, regardless of rivera being on a short leash. its in gettlemans best interest for rivera to do well so he doesn't have to go through the headache of trying to find a new coaching staff...unless he's just looking for an excuse to get his own guy, which i doubt is the case. he's going to be focused on the long term, which will be the focus after the first round, but the first will be more of an immediate impact kind of guy that will give rivera a leg up in the season.

he'll probably do some restructuring, rearranging, and releasing of players,contracts, and cap space to get vet guys who can step in and be solid at a low cost to fill in holes that don't get the immediate fixes in the draft. I'd look for affordable short term 1-2 year deals with older players like ron & dwan mainly to buy some time until a better long term solution could be found. i would also look for a couple of those guys to be the result of draft day trades giving up later draft picks for guys with decent contracts.

at least that's just what I'm thinking.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

A lot of our draft strategy will be determined by what we do to get under the cap and what (if anything) we do in FA. I know we'll sign some FA's, but it may not be until post June 1 when we can free up some more space if desired.

My gut feel is WR/OL in the first two rounds. Gettleman knows Rivera is a whiz with D, so we can probably get by with a bit less talent on that side of the ball. Maybe a vet signing at DT (1 tech), and bringing back Dwan will address that part. As far as safety goes, it would not surprise me at all if we start the year the way we finished, with Godfrey at FS and Campbell at SS. I think Campbell is going to be a player that surprises a lot of us.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:21 AM

Ron and Gettleman have both openly spoken about being fans of taking BPA.

Ron said he liked what he saw out of our defensive line, and that they would be focusing on the offensive line more in an earlier interview, if I recall correctly.

Gettleman said we need big guys, touchdown scorers, guys to help Cam.

I can almost guarantee our first pick will be an offensive linemen or a receiver.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

Related to the question but a bit off topic. Hurney sucked in the draft when he did not have a head coach that was not a lame duck or brand new.

Rivera and Hurney actually had a good draft in 2012. Kuechly, Silatolu, Alexander, Nortman were regular contributors. I expect DJ Campbell to compete for a starting spot next season. Adams is the only question mark, and I think he will be better. That is a stellar draft.

I think the most glaring weaknesses are at DT and OL. We could upgrade CB and WR.
Note about WR: We have three players who were not factors in 2012; if either of them steps up, we are going to be good there. Gettis, Adams, and that tall WR on the PS (forgot name; lazy).

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

Ron and Gettleman have both openly spoken about being fans of taking BPA.

Ron said he liked what he saw out of our defensive line, and that they would be focusing on the offensive line more in an earlier interview, if I recall correctly.

Gettleman said we need big guys, touchdown scorers, guys to help Cam.

I can almost guarantee our first pick will be an offensive linemen or a receiver.

Bwood,
I have been following the draft for years, and you seem to be very knowledgeable about it. Not just this, but in related comments. I would like to add to your comment. Gettlemen said, something like, "BPA if all things are equal"

Your next comment shows his philosophy (QB, Big guys, TD makers, pass rushers).

Now throw in our needs that fit that criteria: DT, OL, and WR.

Now, in my opinion, you have to consider the draft. How much depth is there at each position? I call a position like LOT and QB rarities. They are hard to find outside the first half of the first round. They do not make it to free agency.

Can you find a starting WR in free agency or the second round? Yes.
Can you find a starting DT in free agency or the second round? Yes
Can you find a starting OG in free agency or the second round? Yes
Can you find a starting LT in free agency or the second round? No.

I think we will draft a LT, and Lane Johnson is that guy. I fear that the Rams will trade up with Tampa Bay for Johnson. If that happens, a top WR could be the choice.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

Bwood,
I have been following the draft for years, and you seem to be very knowledgeable about it. Not just this, but in related comments. I would like to add to your comment. Gettlemen said, something like, "BPA if all things are equal"

Your next comment shows his philosophy (QB, Big guys, TD makers, pass rushers).

Now throw in our needs that fit that criteria: DT, OL, and WR.

Now, in my opinion, you have to consider the draft. How much depth is there at each position? I call a position like LOT and QB rarities. They are hard to find outside the first half of the first round. They do not make it to free agency.

Can you find a starting WR in free agency or the second round? Yes.
Can you find a starting DT in free agency or the second round? Yes
Can you find a starting OG in free agency or the second round? Yes
Can you find a starting LT in free agency or the second round? No.

I think we will draft a LT, and Lane Johnson is that guy. I fear that the Rams will trade up with Tampa Bay for Johnson. If that happens, a top WR could be the choice.


I agree with the notion that you draft your left tackles in the first round. Of course there exceptions like Roger Saffold, but id rather not take that risk if I'm looking for a legitimate LT.

Eric Fisher has been my guy since we were handed the 14 spot. Unfortunately it looks like the cats out of the bag, and Fisher could even make a push for being the first tackle off the board.

That being said, Lane Johnson would be the next most logical selection if we wanted a LT (keep in mind this all depends on what happens with Gross). Lane is very raw, and new to the position, but he is definitely no slouch. His game will continue to get better, but that's why I'm not so sure about taking him in the first.

I want my first pick to be a sure thing. Lane Johnson is all about potential, and you shouldn't draft that way in the first round.

My top 5 prospects for us right now are;

1. Fisher (OT)
2. Warmack (OG)
3. Patterson (WR)
4. Williams (DT)
5. Banks (CB)

In my opinion, one of these guys will be a Panther, but that all depends on what happens in free agency.