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#71 mwright350

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:14 AM

Ya think that assessment will change if Flacco wins the Superbowl and Kaep gets hit so hard that his spine flies out of his ass-pipe?


There are people who are going to want to see the read-option as our primary running play no matter what. Those people think Cam is invincible, think Cam will never get hit hard enough to get hurt doing so, and don't understand the difference between an OL blocking when they don't know where the ball is going vs when they do. Their opinion isn't going to change if Kaep gets obliterated - they'll just respond with "but Cam FREAKIN Newton BRAH" and repeat the same arguments for not cutting down on the amount of the option we use (particularly the first part of the season).

Unfortunately I'm also slowly deciding that they can't be reasoned with. Probably for the best where my own sanity is concerned.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

What?



What?

The theory that 'hybrid' QBs can't succeed so they must turn them into pocket passers only is alarming to me when there is one in the superbowl. Mind you there are only 4 in the whole league. That's extremely successful. Now we have a GM telling THE Cam Newton that his talent is not valuable here in the NFL so we gonna get you kill like reid got Vick killed behind a bad OL is alarming. So they can turn around and say 'running QBs can't make it in the leauge'. So they can contitinue and draft their Clausons, Grossmans, Daltons, Lucks, etc. and do away with the Wilsons, Kaepernicks, Cams, Vicks, RG3s, etc. Just systematic bull crap.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

Turn into pocket passers, lol. I think he's just trying to tell that the read option shouldn't be used too much... just what we were raging about Chud was doing early in the season.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

did he say that he wanted it to stop or keep cam from running? nope.

sounds like he's just an advocate of a more balanced offense and he wants his QB around longer. the offense with cam can be just as or more effective by not limiting it to just one small group of running plays.

Reid had the same great idea for Vick too. How come Caroll and Harbaugh don't have those great plans for their QB but rather do wha't best to WIN. That offense should be runned around the strength of Cam. No such thing as balance. Tell that to the Patriots and Packers. My bad, I forgot this was about the Panthers. Cam would look great in Chip Kelly's offense in philadelphia. 2 more years Cam.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

Yes several teams made the playoffs using it, but that doesn't that the option played a significant part.

I think it's safe to say that with the overall talent in Seattle and San Fran , that they would've made the postseason regardless.
Washington had less but Griffen showed to be a pretty talented passer and they had a great running game with just Morris.

read option set up to throws for Griffen....despite his comp % he has not wow'd as a passer. He throws screens and the same route to the TE over the middle all game every game. Read option sets up his predictable passing game.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

The theory that 'hybrid' QBs can't succeed so they must turn them into pocket passers only is alarming to me when there is one in the superbowl. Mind you there are only 4 in the whole league. That's extremely successful. Now we have a GM telling THE Cam Newton that his talent is not valuable here in the NFL so we gonna get you kill like reid got Vick killed behind a bad OL is alarming. So they can turn around and say 'running QBs can't make it in the leauge'. So they can contitinue and draft their Clausons, Grossmans, Daltons, Lucks, etc. and do away with the Wilsons, Kaepernicks, Cams, Vicks, RG3s, etc. Just systematic bull crap.


On the bright side I am now convinced you're trolling - I refuse to believe anyone could accidentally just miss the point that badly.

Thank you for the clarification.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

A lot of overreaction going on here (oh what a surprise).

Gettleman said nothing about eliminating the read Option. He just said if you use it too much or as as staple, you expose your quarterback to excessive hits. Who on this site hasn't said that!?

And when Gettleman looks at the tape, and see's how the Panthers running in out of the Shotgun with the adjacent back, he'll notice how that alignment slows/bogs down the offense as well.

I'm sure we'll see more pistol this year when it's run. But let's all calm down. LOL.

Yes he's old. Yes he's new. But he's not stupid or overreacting. It was probably just an off the cuff answer--during his interview, that we're running wild with here. The Panthers aren't going to eliminate the Read Option or the threat of it.

The OP also shaded his answer into a particular direction as well, which has obviously worked.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:31 AM

No, I'm talking about people, people who have played quarterback at a high level;


If you are going to pull random quotes why not from the guy we are actually talking about??

Honestly, I take more hits in the pocket than I do outside the pocket. In the pocket, I don't see who's coming. That can be more dangerous than when you're running you've got your eyes on a swivel, aware of your surroundings,” Newton said today.
If I'm running, I know this may sound kind of crazy, but I feel more comfortable with protecting myself rather than in the pocket and being defenseless.”


http://blogs.charlot...the-pocket.html



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:31 AM

His jukes are quite lanky, and he doesn't slide he kind of bumbles over... but yes he does get it done.


Cam is smart not to slide. He is protecting himself. It ain't pretty, but it is smart. Much smarter runner than RGIII.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

The theory that 'hybrid' QBs can't succeed so they must turn them into pocket passers only is alarming to me when there is one in the superbowl. Mind you there are only 4 in the whole league. That's extremely successful. Now we have a GM telling THE Cam Newton that his talent is not valuable here in the NFL so we gonna get you kill like reid got Vick killed behind a bad OL is alarming. So they can turn around and say 'running QBs can't make it in the leauge'. So they can contitinue and draft their Clausons, Grossmans, Daltons, Lucks, etc. and do away with the Wilsons, Kaepernicks, Cams, Vicks, RG3s, etc. Just systematic bull crap.


So, are we including Jake Locker in your "hybrid QBs" here? Considering you haven't brought up his name one time, and you said there were only 4 in the league... Or are you simply referring to CERTAIN hybrid QBs? If you are going to pull the race card, don't hide behind some bullshit like "hybrid QBs."

And if you really believe teams would be willing to sign a player to $100m contract just so they can sabotage him behind a bad OL to prove that black QBs can't succeed, then we may have just found the only poster who could make King Tarq sound reasonable in a race discussion.


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