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Here you go lights out. They will not take my weapons, nor will I put them in a special safe at the county level. My weapons will be at my house... And if they want them, the only way they'll get them is from my cold dead hands.

As for The Constitution and amendments... I've fought for this country and our founding fathers. You're lucky that you have the rights to even say how you feel about it. Or maybe we should change that too?

People had better wake up... Cause it aint gonna be pretty...

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Here you go lights out. They will not take my weapons, nor will I put them in a special safe at the county level. My weapons will be at my house... And if they want them, the only way they'll get them is from my cold dead hands.

As for The Constitution and amendments... I've fought for this country and our founding fathers. You're lucky that you have the rights to even say how you feel about it. Or maybe we should change that too?

People had better wake up... Cause it aint gonna be pretty...

The people we keep electing are a bigger issue than a slippery slope logical fallacy. But they are (mostly) being elected legally. These terrible people in office are the problem we need to solve. It won't be done with laws. I do of course doubt our population will ever overcome this however.

The constitution actually details two processes for being altered. The writers had the prescience to know that this would be necessary as they could not foresee everything that would happen and will happen. It's happened previously and will happen again.

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Inalienable.

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Inalienable.

What rights were declared inalienable by the constitution?

Also there is a significant difference between unalienable and inalienable. Inalienable rights can be made alienable by the government. Unalienable rights cannot. They cannot be surrendered or sold or otherwise waived. These rights are inherent to all men(humans).

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Maybe cause its thier right? But better yet! What purpose does the government have for telling me what I can or cannot observe in my liberties? keep in mind that we have gangs and mobs that arm themselves. most home invasions are carried out by groups of people. Your in the frame of mind that the 2nd admendment has something to do with hunting. and it does not at all. Its all about protection and defense. Does not give you the right to attack someone. But never limits the amount of force required to survive beyond the point of crisis. Foriegn domestic or tyrannical.

did you know that a right in fact does not unequivocally mean you can do whatever you want because it's defined by societal parameters?

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I find the majority of the anti firearm crowd to be jaded bitter cowards. With certain exceptions.

Most if you are really pathetic and have no pride in yourself, your rights, or the rights of others.

You await whatever your next master may be.

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At least in this forum. I don't know what you are like irl. I hope it's different

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The point catowar is making. This ban is poorly constructed and ill conceived. This isn't the fix.

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I find the majority of the anti firearm crowd to be jaded bitter cowards. With certain exceptions.

Most if you are really pathetic and have no pride in yourself, your rights, or the rights of others.

You await whatever your next master may be.

Be that as it may I think that this issue is like treating a cough when your patient has gonorrhea. Firearms are not as big an issue as mental health and poverty. Those are the two driving forces behind murder. Not what weapons any given person might posses. The fact is if you outlaw catapults then only outlaws will have catapults.

As such this firearm controversy to me has been utterly terrifying and stupefying. We will do ANYTHING to avoid dealing with poverty and mental health or really any issue that cannot be explained away with just a few talking points.

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The point catowar is making. This ban is poorly constructed and ill conceived. This isn't the fix.

I agree this ban is both ill-conceived and poorly constructed.

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The point catowar is making. This ban is poorly constructed and ill conceived. This isn't the fix.

true... but frankly, this is a bit of a boy-who-cried-wolf situation... the problem is, whenever anybody brings up gun control, the reaction is EXACTLY the same, regardless of the severity of the measure... so the end result is this... you get legislation rammed down your throat because you (pro-gun peoples) have marginalized yourself from any actual productive conversation. I agree that people generally don't use rifles for crime and consequently, this ban will do very little (if anything.) Would you prefer that handgun restriction be on the table? Because that's the elephant in the room.

This is a token measure to make the stupids (present company excluded) feel safe with as little collateral damage to the gun culture as possible. Literally ANY other regulation would've been more restrictive and more invasive. Do you expect the populace at large not to react to pervasive violence? Are you surprised by their reactions? In a witch-hunt (because, realistically, that's what this is) do you expect smugness, bad metaphors and bumper-stickers to hold up your end of the argument? Because... look around you... That's all that's left.

People in this country F*CKING LOVE GUNS... when it gets to the point that the populace as a whole is supportive of restrictions... the NRA, the gun lobby (and it's ilk) got sloppy, took everyone for granted and now... they done f*cked up. They should be leading these discussions... instead, they act like petulant children.

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Be that as it may I think that this issue is like treating a cough when your patient has gonorrhea. Firearms are not as big an issue as mental health and poverty. Those are the two driving forces behind murder. Not what weapons any given person might posses. The fact is if you outlaw catapults then only outlaws will have catapults.

As such this firearm controversy to me has been utterly terrifying and stupefying. We will do ANYTHING to avoid dealing with poverty and mental health or really any issue that cannot be explained away with just a few talking points.

Gov doesn't want those things to change. They want us poor and doped up....aaaaaaannnnnndddddd disarmed.

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