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#51 Murph

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:24 PM

I'm confused by this article. All the do-gooders are telling me an AR-15 is nothing but a killing machine and has no use in home defense. New York seems to be leading the way with this kind of ranting. And yet


http://www.13wham.co...kwgAZpGO4g.cspx

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:24 PM

Gov doesn't want those things to change. They want us poor and doped up....aaaaaaannnnnndddddd disarmed.


I'm not sure that these things are in the government's best interest at all. In fact for our actual government a wealthy and healthy populace are very good things.

For the shadow government perhaps not. Which of these are you referring to?

When I refer to the shadow government I am talking about what James Perloff discussed in Shadows of Power.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

I'm confused by this article. All the do-gooders are telling me an AR-15 is nothing but a killing machine and has no use in home defense. New York seems to be leading the way with this kind of ranting. And yet


http://www.13wham.co...kwgAZpGO4g.cspx


Any weapon would have sufficed in this situation I surmise. I agree with the real point of demonizing "scary guns." It doesn't really solve any problems.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

You are right. That post was wrong of me and added nothing to the conversation. I should have been more clear and less attackmode


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Holy crap for the past month all I've heard is assault weapons are bad, assault weapons combined with kids is horrible. But then

http://www.khou.com/...y-97430719.html

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Holy crap for the past month all I've heard is assault weapons are bad, assault weapons combined with kids is horrible. But then

http://www.13wham.co...kwgAZpGO4g.cspx


So this one instance of unloaded AR-15 heroism has some kind of profound impact?

please note I have nothing against the AR-15 and would like to have one since I finally got to shoot one this past Christmas. Before I was really wanting an AK but now I'm torn.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

My bad, meant to link to this one instead

http://www.khou.com/...y-97430719.html

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

My bad, meant to link to this one instead

http://www.khou.com/...y-97430719.html


The weapon used is irrelevant in my view.

I think the people you are trying to appeal to though, considering how you seemed to be addressing extremists, are unlikely to be swayed by anything. Not even a story about a minor shooting a person multiple times with a rifle.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:58 PM

How would responsible gun legislation keep criminals from getting whatever firearm they might want? I still don't see how this will affect gang members from getting any weapon they have the money to obtain. I still see it hurting legal gun owners the most.

Someone should explain to me the registering my grandfathered weapons that's in this bill that I will have to register if this passes. ( all bolt action rifles, and a few pistols with detachable clips)









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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

How would responsible gun legislation keep criminals from getting whatever firearm they might want? I still don't see how this will affect gang members from getting any weapon they have the money to obtain. I still see it hurting legal gun owners the most.

Someone should explain to me the registering my grandfathered weapons that's in this bill that I will have to register if this passes. ( all bolt action rifles, and a few pistols with detachable clips)


Where do criminals get their guns?

I contend that well thought and carefully implemented legislation would indeed have an appreciable impact (downward trending) on gun related violence/murder over time.

Also, in what way are you harmed if you must register all firearms you own?


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