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[footballisasport]

Can't argue with the "more involvement" thing.

Is that asked of all QBs?

[1989]

http://www.nfl.com/n...rbacks-under-30

Yes, he brings up the sideline poo AGAIN.

I agree with the sideline stuff as well.

Most of the time he goes straight to the bench and puts a towel over his head. I definitely can see him growing though. He's YOUNG. We have all seen him maturing before our eyes. Next year I see him stepping up a lot as a leader and getting more involved.

[footballisasport]

I am just going to make a forum for insecure butt hurt fans that piss themselves when someone doesn't say cam is the greatest of all time.

I thought that title was already given to Luck.

I don't have a problem with the media pointing things out when need be but intentionally ceating a false image of these players just to feed their own egos and pushing their made up poo everytime they talk about the player, is nauseating.

[footballisasport]

I am just going to make a forum for insecure butt hurt fans that piss themselves when someone doesn't say cam is the greatest of all time.

I thought that title was already given to Luck.

I don't have a problem with the media pointing things out when need be but intentionally ceating a false image of these players just to feed their own egos and pushing their made up poo everytime they talk about the player, is nauseating.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

I think Flacco is a little high. He runs very inconsistent at times. He's had a good run in the playoffs, but he can look atrocious at times.

[FootballMaestro]

I agree with the sideline stuff as well.

Most of the time he goes straight to the bench and puts a towel over his head. I definitely can see him growing though. He's YOUNG. We have all seen him maturing before our eyes. Next year I see him stepping up a lot as a leader and getting more involved.

Unless you're speaking about when you're at the games, I call BS on this.

Cam always looked over film and sat down with Shula from day one (win or lose).

However, the media created this false image of Cam, by showing him on the sidelines with his towel (which he does regardless of how the game is going or how he's doing), while they show other QB's talking to their teammates and coaches. Cam was no different. However television chose to show him sitting alone. Of course, as of late they show him more now with his coaches. But that doesn't take away from the fact that he had did this before.

Now Cam is not perfect. However, many of the things he gets called on, other QB's do the same thing and it never gets brought up or mentioned. That's what some Cam backers have a problem with.

The leader thing is overrated as well. If the Panthers had a real head coach (Rivera is learning his job more than Cam actually), the leadership would start from the top and everyone on the team would know their roles and place. It's easy to be a leader when your team is winning and you have stability at the top from a head coach who knows what he's doing and is in control of his team. Rivera was not, and the job, both on and off the field got away from him.

Remember, Rivera himself has mentioned to the media, that he should have hired a former HC to help him out with the job. How do you expect Cam to be a leader, when the Head Coach doesn't know what's he's doing, and the team is losing or underachieving? It's not the same.

[Sod]

Not bad. The thing too remember too is that Cam is younger than Kap and Wilson. Those guys plus RG3 and Luck were at the same program using the same system with the exception of Wilson going to Wisconsin as a 5th year Sr. I think Cam still has more room to mature and take advantage of his current stability. Hopefully Rivera and Shula can be who we want them to be and keep Cam in a stable environment for a while.

[scarface]

Cam > Luck

[footballisasport]

I agree with the sideline stuff as well.

Most of the time he goes straight to the bench and puts a towel over his head. I definitely can see him growing though. He's YOUNG. We have all seen him maturing
before our eyes. Next year I see him steppot as a leader and getting more involved.

Lol...u see Cam maturing right before ur eyes? What were his immaturity issues? Kissing his biceps after every personal accomplishments? Oh wait, that's not the "me first" "cocky and arrogant" Cam who was doing that, that was Colin. And no one sat and spun it into a concern for his maturity.

See how our media can make a behind out of folks if they let them.

[footballisasport]

Unless you're speaking about when you're at the games, I call BS on this.

Cam always looked over film and sat down with Shula from day one (win or lose).

However, the media created this false image of Cam, by showing him on the sidelines with his towel (which he does regardless of how the game is going or how he's doing), while they show other QB's talking to their teammates and coaches. Cam was no different. However television chose to show him sitting alone. Of course, as of late they show him more now with his coaches. But that doesn't take away from the fact that he had did this before.

Now Cam is not perfect. However, many of the things he gets called on, other QB's do the same thing, and it never gets brought up or mentioned. That's what some Cam backers have a problem with.

The leader thing is overrated as well. If the Panthers had a real head coach (Rivera is learning his job more than Cam actually is), the leadership would start from the top and everyone on the team would know their role. It's easy to be a leader when your team is winning and you have stability at the top from a head coach who knows what he's doing and is in control of his team. Rivera was not, and the job--on and off the field--got away from him.

Remember, Rivera himself has mentioned to the media, that he should have hired a former HC to help him out with the job. How do you expect Cam to be a leader, when the Head Coach doesn't know what's he's doing, and the team is losing or underachieving? It's not the same.

U r right about the whole "leadership" nonsense and Cam. Since when is QB for a team automatically expected to be the leader in the locker room? Some folks do tend to buy the media's Fairy-tales of the roles these players should play hook line and sinker.

Yeah, Luck is automatically given credit for being a "leader" by our media when he hasn't done a darn thing but throw a few footballs.

The whole QB must be a leader stuff is so overrated and false. For most teams, the Vets on the team are the usual leaders until the QB grows into the role. I wonder why the Panthers team are any different?

[FootballMaestro]

U r right about the whole "leadership" nonsense and Cam. Since when is QB for a team automatically expected to be the leader in the locker room? Some folks do tend to buy the media's Fairy-tales of the roles these players should play hook line and sinker.

Yeah, Luck is automatically given credit for being a "leader" by ou media when he hasn't done a darn thing but throw a few footballs.

The leader whole QB must be a leader stuff is so overrated and false. For most teams, the Vets on the team are the usual leaders until the QB grows into the role. I wonder why the Panthers team are any different?

A new or rookie QB can be a leader during their first year. However, its' not going to happen if the HC or team sucks. Cause when that happens there's no stability. And when there's no stability from the head coach you have no leaders, cause you have to get it from the coach first.

If you have a good team or a coach that's in charge: The players that he really likes, automatically become designated leaders, if not adopted ones (by his teammates).

That's why great QB's are almost always associated with Great Coaches, or at the very least, very good or competent coaches. They go hand in hand.

[Green Eggs and Cam]

Want a quick way to find out if a "journalist" is a lazy fug? Ask him about Luck and Cam. His Luck argument will be "but teh winz!!" Cam argument will be "wears towel on head, also reported (by Rick Reilly of course) that he enjoys killing puppies while driving drunk while on his way to rob an orphanage."

[unicar15]

2 months ago Flacco would be around where Cam is. All of a sudden the guy is the 3rd. Winning does a lot...despite stats.

[ButWhysTheRumGone]

2 months ago Flacco would be around where Cam is. All of a sudden the guy is the 3rd. Winning does a lot...despite stats.

Yea I actually think he is underrated. Say what you want about his inconsistencies, but he shows up Playoff time.

[Frizzy350]

U r right about the whole "leadership" nonsense and Cam. Since when is QB for a team automatically expected to be the leader in the locker room? Some folks do tend to buy the media's Fairy-tales of the roles these players should play hook line and sinker.

Yeah, Luck is automatically given credit for being a "leader" by ou media when he hasn't done a darn thing but throw a few footballs.

The leader whole QB must be a leader stuff is so overrated and false. For most teams, the Vets on the team are the usual leaders until the QB grows into the role. I wonder why the Panthers team are any different?

^^^ Pretty much this. If you are the new quarterback to a team and you walk into a locker room and demand that everyone follow your instruction, the guys who have been there busting their ass for years will probably immediately hate you. Respect has to be earned, not demanded.