does he not need to grow and improve? does he not need to bcecome more mature? do you thiknk that he doesn't actually feel that or that those feelings aren't warranted? that it's just him being hard on himself?
it's amazing to me how little he is allowed to be criticized, and i wouldn't even call this criticsm. it's truthful and honest observation about a young stud QB. it's reality.
the reality is that he has grown in those areas as well, is it not? at least that's what we're hoping because it sure looked like it. he needed to grow and he did. and he's not done yet. he's still got quite a ways to go and i'm sure he acknowledges that. why else do you think he's going back to school? why do that if everything is just fine the way it is?
he and others not blinded by his suped-up and imagined personna, realize that he has to grow. he has to mature. he has to improve. he has room for it, just like anyone.
i swear this is the dumbest conversation around and i'm done.
I already addressed your questions, in what I wrote already.
All I was saying was: You're examples were innocuous/harmless, cause what Cam addressed was fluff--at the time, and both Rivera and Hurney said as much. It was a PR move or Cam taking too much/unnecessary responsibility on his shoulders. But nonetheless nice to hear.
Cam taking true ownership, during the middle of the 2012 season, was a better example. And that was self driven. So that should be seen as a positive for Cam, and he gets all the credit in the world for being proactive and doing that.
The issue is not what Cam can improve on. The real question is: What he's asked and being criticized on, more than other QB's who encounter many of the same things he does, who are allowed to have their own personalities--on and off the field, and not be unfairly criticized for it.
For example: I would say that Kaepernick, based off what I've seen, is more immature and fiery on the field than Cam. And obviously, he wasn't NFL ready when he came into the league. However, you rarely hear media criticize him or even address either component. That's what many Cam supporters have issues with. Warren Moon even addressed this (the unfair criticism portion). And I'm not sure if you know this: But Moon is a big supporter of Luck. Knows his father well (Oliver Luck was a back up to Moon in the NFL). And Moon recommended Cam's QB tutor--George Whitfield to Oliver Luck, who then recommended Whitfield to his son--Andrew. And the rest is history.
I have no issue with legitimate or Abnormal Cam Events Cam criticism. However, most of what I hear, is just normal/regular stuff that different personalities, QB's and players on losing teams experience all the time, that gets blown out of proportion with him. No one ever said, that Cam has nothing to learn or couldn't get better. Of course not!