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#31 carolina-chuck

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

WOW!!!! Can we sign Spag to somewhere on the staff no??

Im gonna laugh at that 34 D for NO. They dont even have the fuggn personnel for it. We're in better position to convert to a 34 than they are.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:36 PM

Don't they know you can't just change from a 4-3 to 3-4 in one offseason? And the Jets are changing to a West Coast offense this year.

If they read the Huddle, they would know that these sudden system changes are nearly impossible without sucking for years.


Well you can if you had the wrong personnel in at one or the other...

Either way many teams over the past decade have done this fan appeasement gimmick. A team will have a crappy defense, fans see the Steelers and go LOL WE NEED TO BE A 3-4 TO BE GUD AT THE DEFENSES, then said team with a crappy defense realizes the only fix is to beef up on way more talent than is reasonable to obtain in offseason, swaps to the 3-4 and says to fans: HEY SEE WE ARE MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS LIKE THE BELL LICK CHECK!

Seriously though every team that is a 4-3 defense and not a dominant defense sees pressure from the fanbase to switch to a 3-4. The funny thing is the really good defenses now are ones that excel in getting pressure in nickel and dime formations and run a semi-hybrid 3-4 and 4-3 defense.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

I remember the year (2009) Green Bay brought in Dom Capers and switched to the 3-4 defense. It was hilarious watching them.
What were they thinking they'd suck for years, just ask the Huddle!1!!!!11!!1!!1!!!!
Then they won the Super Bowl the same year.



I guess it can be done.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:22 AM

I remember the year (2009) Green Bay brought in Dom Capers and switched to the 3-4 defense. It was hilarious watching them.
What were they thinking they'd suck for years, just ask the Huddle!1!!!!11!!1!!1!!!!
Then they won the Super Bowl the same year.



I guess it can be done.


Holler at me when the saints find guys like clay Matthews, Charles Woodson, BJ raji, and Cullen Jenkins to fit in their new system.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:24 AM

Read some speculation (keyword) that Chip Kelly could be interested. But it seems like 2 DC jobs in 2 years would warrant some pause. Super Bowl or not. I guess we'll all find out in the next few weeks.


You're talking about Spagnuolo or Flajole?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:24 AM




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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:28 AM

http://whatdoumeme.c...ated/35zxaq.jpg


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:32 AM

You're talking about Spagnuolo or Flajole?

Spags

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:49 AM

Spags is: An outstanding position coach, a so-so defensive coordinator, and a terrible head coach.

Hey we've got an opening at the LB coaching position, Steve, come on down

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:58 AM

Holler at me when the saints find guys like clay Matthews, Charles Woodson, BJ raji, and Cullen Jenkins to fit in their new system.



2009 draft when the Pack chose to go 3-4 their first two picks were BJ Raji and Clay Mathews.
To continue to think it cant be done is naive at best.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

2009 draft when the Pack chose to go 3-4 their first two picks were BJ Raji and Clay Mathews.
To continue to think it cant be done is naive at best.



They also had two first rounders to select those guys, and had other guys like Woodson, Jenkins, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, etc. They also had an organization who knew how to draft defense, and oh yeah, they had a coach who has a great history of running the 3-4. The Saints have even hired a defensive coordinator yet, are in cap hell, yet they're switching to a 3-4. Sounds like a great, well thought out plan.

I remember the year (2009) Green Bay brought in Dom Capers and switched to the 3-4 defense. It was hilarious watching them.
What were they thinking they'd suck for years, just ask the Huddle!1!!!!11!!1!!1!!!!
Then they won the Super Bowl the same year.


That was the 2010 Packers you are talking about, might want to check your facts.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

They also had two first rounders to select those guys, and had other guys like Woodson, Jenkins, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, etc. They also had an organization who knew how to draft defense, and oh yeah, they had a coach who has a great history of running the 3-4. The Saints have even hired a defensive coordinator yet, are in cap hell, yet they're switching to a 3-4. Sounds like a great, well thought out plan.





Saints have shown they are pretty savvy in Free Agency and in the last few years I'm sure you'll agree virtually everything they do is done better than it is done on Carolina.
It sucks but they've been going to the Playoffs and winning a Super Bowl while we win fug all but that's how it is. It's easy to hope they'll suck and drop to the bottom of the NFC South but I'm noy going to stick my head in the sand and ignore the fact that New Orleans will be much improved next year, one way or another.
I guess we'll see and check back in about 10 months.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

WOW!!!! Can we sign Spag to somewhere on the staff no??

Im gonna laugh at that 34 D for NO. They dont even have the fuggn personnel for it. We're in better position to convert to a 34 than they are.

It's not like the Saints have the personnel for a 4-3 either. If there's a time to switch it might as well be now. Regardless of what scheme they pick, they are basically starting from zero.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

Saints have shown they are pretty savvy in Free Agency and in the last few years I'm sure you'll agree virtually everything they do is done better than it is done on Carolina.
It sucks but they've been going to the Playoffs and winning a Super Bowl while we win fug all but that's how it is. It's easy to hope they'll suck and drop to the bottom of the NFC South but I'm noy going to stick my head in the sand and ignore the fact that New Orleans will be much improved next year, one way or another.
I guess we'll see and check back in about 10 months.


If the Saints do anything it will be because of their offense and their head coach coming back, not because of some madden esque switch to a 3-4 for all the reasons that I mentioned.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

It's not like the Saints have the personnel for a 4-3 either. If there's a time to switch it might as well be now. Regardless of what scheme they pick, they are basically starting from zero.

good point. i think they have the personnel that fits the 4-3 better, but not well.

i'm not sure they've got the personnel to run any defense well. it's kind of like trying to find the best offense for clausen.


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